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[94.44.41.250]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm41266524eej.6.2013.02.07.02.27.47 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Feb 2013 02:27:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5113819C.505@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 11:27:40 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Szab=F3_Gergely?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] New MacBook Pro References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040802030906000104050805" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040802030906000104050805 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Has anybody a new iMac? I would be curious for those results. Gergo 2/6/13 9:44 PM keltezéssel, Dean Forss írta: > Here's Dean's new Windows build to add to the fray. > > i7 6 core 3930k desktop GTX660Ti 64GB RAM slightly OC'd at 4 gHz > (win7, sp1 64 ultimate) > > OpenGL Performance: 54.15 FPS > CPU: 11.57 > CPU (Single Core): 1.63 > MP Ratio: 7.11x > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > Retina MBP 15" 2.3ghz quad-core i7 8GB RAM > > OpenGL Performance: 35.25 FPS > CPU: 6.10 > CPU (Single Core): 1.24 > MP Ratio: 4.92x > > i7 6 core 3930k desktop GTX680 64GB RAM (I'll run this again > overclocked at some point) > > OpenGL Performance: 46.87 FPS > CPU: 9.93 > CPU (Single Core): 1.4 > MP Ratio: 7.10x > > ASUS G75 SSD Version Gaming Laptop. > > OpenGL Performance: 42.76 FPS > CPU: 6.17 > CPU (Single Core): 1.31 > MP Ratio: 4.70x >> > > > > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Carey Dissmore > wrote: > > Cool. > > For comparison I ran Cinebench 11.5 on two machines here: > > Retina MBP 15" 2.3ghz quad-core i7 8GB RAM > > OpenGL Performance: 35.25 FPS > CPU: 6.10 > CPU (Single Core): 1.24 > MP Ratio: 4.92x > > > i7 6 core 3930k desktop GTX680 64GB RAM (I'll run this again > overclocked at some point) > > OpenGL Performance: 46.87 FPS > CPU: 9.93 > CPU (Single Core): 1.4 > MP Ratio: 7.10x > > Carey > > > > On Feb 6, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Andrew Embury > wrote: > >> So here's the results from the ASUS G75 SSD Version Gaming Laptop. >> >> Running Cinebench 11.5: >> >> OpenGL Performance: 42.76 FPS >> CPU: 6.17 >> CPU (Single Core): 1.31 >> MP Ratio: 4.70x >> >> Have a great day everyone! Massage those keyframes! ;) >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Teddy Gage > > wrote: >> >> Actually I believe it's an apple issue. I did some extensive >> research to get my own setup up and running. I also was >> having network discovery issues. to summarize, when apple >> switched to their own implementation of SMB they did >> something weird; they only left something like 5 kb to >> address file server names whereas it was something like 100kb >> in OS 10.6 and below. If you have more than a handful of >> servers, network discovery with windows either won't load, >> crashes, or glitches out. this is why you can connect >> directly if you know the IP address. However if you have >> dynamic IPs this can be a huge pain, as obviously ip address >> changes. But you can also use the computer's network name, >> which is what I do. you can also either install the previous >> smb handling or there's another workaround mentioned here I >> think. >> >> http://www.macwindows.com/snowleopard-filesharing.html#090209d >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Stephen van Vuuren >> > wrote: >> >> > Looked at cinemartin... whats the deal with it ? how >> much ? no mention on >> their site. >> >> It's not in huge letters but on the page it's released >> freeware. >> >> > I went thru OS resintalls, every config imaginable and >> win 7 just refuses >> to network discover correctly. >> >> That's a weird problem - don't think 3com switches are >> likely the issue >> although it's not impossible if some kind of TCP port >> blocking is in place. >> It's possible you have some other device on your network >> (printer, media >> streamer etc.) - some of those devices screw with >> networking in general. >> >> XP had a much simpler and more insecure network stack - >> thus less prone to >> issues. >> >> stephen van vuuren >> 336.202.4777 >> >> http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ >> http://www.sv2dcp.com/ >> http://www.sv2studios.com/ >> >> A film is - or should be - more like music than like >> fiction. It should be a >> progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's >> behind the emotion, the >> meaning, all that comes later. >> -Stanley Kubrick >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: After Effects Mail List >> [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv >> ] On Behalf Of >> Steve Oakley >> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:21 PM >> To: After Effects Mail List >> Subject: Re: [AE] New MacBook Pro >> >> >> On Feb 5, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Stephen van Vuuren >> > >> wrote: >> >> >> that "other than a few codecs" is a HUGE problem for >> me. not being >> >> able to >> > write prores is a real show stopper. >> > >> > There are several FFMPEG and other solutions out there >> - including this: >> > http://www.cinemartin.com/cinec/ just released. >> >> I've been aware of the FFMPEG thing, but its just not a >> terribly practical >> tool for everyday use. Looked at cinemartin... whats the >> deal with it ? how >> much ? no mention on their site. I saw another ProRes >> encoder but it was >> rather pricey. Cineform is too expensive per seat to >> consider ( free ver >> doesn't do alpha channel last time I looked ) and just >> not used widely >> enough with the people I have to deal with.... and if >> they spec ProRes HQ >> thats what they want. >> >> while workable for final delivery, not sure about >> everyday work as >> intermediates in the process where you are doing updates >> on something all >> day long. >> >> >> > >> >> then there are the win7 networking problems >> > >> > You must have a setup issue. I have Linux, Mac >> (Hackintosh) and >> > Windows 7 all happy together and networked - critical >> part of my >> > workflow. As long as you don't turn Homegroup on, life >> is good. Linux >> > is an Unbuntu box. Like any cross-platform setup some easy >> > configuration is needed - but nothing beyond some basic >> settings in the >> GUI. >> >> its entirely possible that the 3COM switches I have are >> the problem. I've >> considered that but don't have an option for the moment >> to change them out >> to see if thats the problem. >> >> I went thru OS resintalls, every config imaginable and >> win 7 just refuses to >> network discover correctly. the work around was to do a >> direct open of the >> share via smb/IP and make shortcuts on the desktop. that >> usually worked. its >> when something new shows up you have to track down the IP >> of the new thing. >> Also odd bits - discovery did work for one day, then >> never again. never >> figured out how that happened. win7 does see 2 enet >> printers and the router. >> I never had these problems with XP. >> >> >> > >> >> too many workflow stoppers >> > >> > I'm not actually aware of single workflow stopper other >> than if you >> > have apps or hardware that simply won't function on >> anything but Apple >> > and the cost of replacing them is too high. >> >> >> well the problems I've had resulted in huge amounts of >> wasted time with no >> resolution. 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Has anybody a new iMac? I would be curious for those results.

Gergo

2/6/13 9:44 PM keltezéssel, Dean Forss írta:
Here's Dean's new Windows build to add to the fray. 

i7 6 core 3930k desktop GTX660Ti 64GB RAM slightly OC'd at 4 gHz (win7, sp1 64 ultimate)

OpenGL Performance: 54.15 FPS
CPU: 11.57
CPU (Single Core): 1.63
MP Ratio: 7.11x

---------------------------------------------------------

Retina MBP 15" 2.3ghz quad-core i7 8GB RAM

OpenGL Performance: 35.25  FPS
CPU: 6.10
CPU (Single Core): 1.24
MP Ratio: 4.92x

i7 6 core 3930k desktop GTX680 64GB RAM (I'll run this again overclocked at some point)

OpenGL Performance: 46.87 FPS
CPU: 9.93
CPU (Single Core): 1.4
MP Ratio: 7.10x

ASUS G75 SSD Version Gaming Laptop.

OpenGL Performance: 42.76 FPS
CPU: 6.17
CPU (Single Core): 1.31
MP Ratio: 4.70x




On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Carey Dissmore <carey@imugonline.com> wrote:
Cool. 

For comparison I ran Cinebench 11.5 on two machines here:

Retina MBP 15" 2.3ghz quad-core i7 8GB RAM

OpenGL Performance: 35.25  FPS
CPU: 6.10
CPU (Single Core): 1.24
MP Ratio: 4.92x


i7 6 core 3930k desktop GTX680 64GB RAM (I'll run this again overclocked at some point)

OpenGL Performance: 46.87 FPS
CPU: 9.93
CPU (Single Core): 1.4
MP Ratio: 7.10x

Carey



On Feb 6, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Andrew Embury <aembury@gmail.com> wrote:

So here's the results from the ASUS G75 SSD Version Gaming Laptop.

Running Cinebench 11.5:

OpenGL Performance: 42.76 FPS
CPU: 6.17
CPU (Single Core): 1.31
MP Ratio: 4.70x

Have a great day everyone! Massage those keyframes! ;)


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually I believe it's an apple issue. I did some extensive research to get my own setup up and running. I also was having network discovery issues. to summarize, when apple switched to their own implementation of SMB they did something weird; they only left something like 5 kb to address file server names whereas it was something like 100kb in OS 10.6 and below. If you have more than a handful of servers, network discovery with windows either won't load, crashes, or glitches out. this is why you can connect directly if you know the IP address. However if you have dynamic IPs this can be a huge pain, as obviously ip address changes. But you can also use the computer's network name, which is what I do. you can also either install the previous smb handling or there's another workaround mentioned here I think. 

http://www.macwindows.com/snowleopard-filesharing.html#090209d


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Stephen van Vuuren <stephen@sv2studios.com> wrote:
> Looked at cinemartin... whats the deal with it ? how much ? no mention on
their site.

It's not in huge letters but on the page it's released freeware.

> I went thru OS resintalls, every config imaginable and win 7 just refuses
to network discover correctly.

That's a weird problem - don't think 3com switches are likely the issue
although it's not impossible if some kind of TCP port blocking is in place.
It's possible you have some other device on your network (printer, media
streamer etc.) - some of those devices screw with networking in general.

XP had a much simpler and more insecure network stack - thus less prone to
issues.

stephen van vuuren
336.202.4777

http://www.insaturnsrings.com/
http://www.sv2dcp.com/
http://www.sv2studios.com/

A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It should be a
progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emotion, the
meaning, all that comes later.
-Stanley Kubrick


-----Original Message-----
From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of
Steve Oakley
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:21 PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] New MacBook Pro


On Feb 5, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Stephen van Vuuren <stephen@sv2studios.com>
wrote:

>> that "other than a few codecs" is a HUGE problem for me. not being
>> able to
> write prores is a real show stopper.
>
> There are several FFMPEG and other solutions out there - including this:
> http://www.cinemartin.com/cinec/ just released.

I've been aware of the FFMPEG thing, but its just not a terribly practical
tool for everyday use. Looked at cinemartin... whats the deal with it ? how
much ? no mention on their site. I saw another ProRes encoder but it was
rather pricey. Cineform is too expensive per seat to consider ( free ver
doesn't do alpha channel last time I looked ) and just not used widely
enough with the people I have to deal with.... and if they spec ProRes HQ
thats what they want.

while workable for final delivery, not sure about everyday work as
intermediates in the process where you are doing updates on something all
day long.


>
>> then there are the win7 networking problems
>
> You must have a setup issue. I have Linux, Mac (Hackintosh) and
> Windows 7 all happy together and networked - critical part of my
> workflow. As long as you don't turn Homegroup on, life is good. Linux
> is an Unbuntu box. Like any cross-platform setup some easy
> configuration is needed - but nothing beyond some basic settings in the
GUI.

its entirely possible that the 3COM switches I have are the problem. I've
considered that but don't have an option for the moment to change them out
to see if thats the problem.

I went thru OS resintalls, every config imaginable and win 7 just refuses to
network discover correctly. the work around was to do a direct open of the
share via smb/IP and make shortcuts on the desktop. that usually worked. its
when something new shows up you have to track down the IP of the new thing.
Also odd bits - discovery did work for one day, then never again. never
figured out how that happened. win7 does see 2 enet printers and the router.
I never had these problems with XP.


>
>> too many workflow stoppers
>
> I'm not actually aware of single workflow stopper other than if you
> have apps or hardware that simply won't function on anything but Apple
> and the cost of replacing them is too high.


well the problems I've had resulted in huge amounts of wasted time with no
resolution. I spent more time messing around than doing real work.

S
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