Return-Path: Received: from mail-qe0-f54.google.com ([209.85.128.54] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4972564 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:37:58 +0100 Received: by mail-qe0-f54.google.com with SMTP id 1so2696507qeb.13 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:44:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=r/NmtVYw7LUAaPdiQTEyK6zLAOJiSx/CBi7a32V3epc=; b=qPiDHa8uGmnvIdYJ5RSKrTGVXLjRuXaT/ZLsNBo6RFVbON6yVK+WUpQFhRLIPXQi2c 75EhiRrWas8t5mIOvSb656tqfCn4Ndcc3LbuztyJGkNmfw4ghEHQz0UDs+idldhWdCDm lLJ6X05IkTFKJDLyjXbUqiI7dkQlNy0jqDR30Vpvl1DXP8EFHilllYQJKljpngiKKFmL LtwMEc2srtEh3BmPBdvNLdTGSMpIXCmaNhiMYAPTqXV0PgRPlvq2s8R0uZl3inJR8Zqp dQ+xwTGGjj/ulup+MYzampbbBPGPVcLtWI5xZcWUfHLYxKFze64JUEMgBd7GIzk6auau bJww== X-Received: by 10.224.9.77 with SMTP id k13mr6068055qak.4.1360604642187; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:44:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.49.106.226 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:43:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Teddy Gage Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:43:22 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Pro rez from After Effects CS6 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51dda316098ef04d57674f0 --bcaec51dda316098ef04d57674f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have put it through the paces on several projects already. It is great machine. Here are some thoughts. I have 16 GB RAM in mine, I got it for around $850 new (maybe refurb) on ebay. First, the bad news: The intel integrated graphics card is NOT CUDA compatible. No raytracing in CS6 either. That being said, the CPU benchmarks around 6.5 in cinebench. This is a hair faster than the fastest brand new macbook pro and comparable to the mid end iMac. I rarely use CUDA except for encoding and prefer Element 3D to the built in ray tracer. the intel chips run element 3D pretty well, but not amazing. (no heavy 3d particles) - It runs after effects great. Much faster than the four year old xeon mac pros at work, as long as you aren't pushing the open GL a ton with hundreds of 3D layers. particular 2.0 runs with no problems, even with hundreds of thousands of particles - Maya and cinema 4d run OK for low-poly work, however it renders projects great (being CPU only). Hi poly models can crash open gl though. However several mac minis could be a great render farm for 3D, as the CPU is very fast. - it runs final cut pro like a champ. However if you don't have an SSD the internal drive is too slow for HD playback - I hooked up a RAID 0 drive through USB 3.0 and now I have no dropped frames in 1080P with overlays and supers etc. - compressor runs like a champ - works great as a file server and backup system - There have been rumors of breakout box graphics cards running through thunderbolt - this would allow external graphics processing. This could make the mac mini a true desktop workstation killer. overall highly recommended for many uses On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:24 PM, polkadoter@aol.com wrote: > Perfect timing on this post Teddy. We were also looking at the latest mac > mini. My only concern is the graphic card requirements for CS6 > compatibility (AE and Premiere). I know the mini can be upgraded to 16mg > ram but does the graphics card have the horsepower for CS6 to do the job > for rendering etc. Anyone have experience with it? Or is there some > online compatibility / performance reference? > Thanks! > Linda > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Feb 11, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Teddy Gage wrote: > > or even better, get one of the new quad core i7 mac minis. All the speed > of a brand new laptop for 1/3 the price, and better connectivity. Even > cheaper if you get it on ebay. worked great for me. > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Jim Curtis wrote: > >> Sounds like somebody has a case of the Mondays. >> >> I interpreted the post as a plea for more info on ProRes, and didn't >> detect a platform preference, or any mention of encoding or decoding (other >> than transcoding to h.264 from ProRes). >> >> Anyway, according to what I read here, there is a solution to create >> ProRes on Windows: >> >> http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/20/868372 >> >> Or, buy a cheap used Mac laptop that runs Compressor. >> >> If you could just go ahead and make sure you do that from now on, that'd >> be great. >> >> >> >> On Feb 11, 2013, at 8:20 AM, mike cardeiro wrote: >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Jim Curtis >> >> >> The decoder for Windows is free from Apple. >> >> >> >> The decoder may be free, but the OP is talking about encoding, which, as >> far as I know is not free on pc. Personally I am getting tired of >> everybody I deal with assuming that pro rez is no problemo for me. I >> recently needed to upload a commercial spot for a station and the specs >> said they wanted prorez, and the instructions sent from the station talked >> about how to do this from your final cut project which would all be well >> and good if I wasn't editing on Avid! sorry to rant but it is Monday >> morning. >> >> Mike Cardeiro >> Editor/Animator/Compositor >> D4 Creative Group - Philadelphia, PA >> >> http://www.michaelcardeiro.com/resume/ >> http://www.youtube.com/user/mcardeiro >> >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >> >> >> > > > -- > Animator & Editor > www.teddygage.com > Brooklyn > > -- Animator & Editor www.teddygage.com Brooklyn --bcaec51dda316098ef04d57674f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have put it through the paces on several projects already. It is great ma= chine. Here are some thoughts. I have 16 GB RAM in mine, I got it for aroun= d $850 new (maybe refurb) on ebay. First, the bad news: The intel integrate= d graphics card is NOT CUDA compatible. No raytracing in CS6 either. That b= eing said, the CPU benchmarks around 6.5 in cinebench. This is a hair faste= r than the fastest brand new macbook pro and comparable to the mid end iMac= . I rarely use CUDA except for encoding and prefer Element 3D to the built = in ray tracer. the intel chips run element 3D pretty well, but not amazing.= (no heavy 3d particles)

- It runs after effects great. Much faster than the four yea= r old xeon mac pros at work, as long as you aren't pushing the open GL = a ton with hundreds of 3D layers. particular 2.0 runs with no problems, eve= n with hundreds of thousands of particles

- Maya and cinema 4d run OK for low-poly work, however = it renders projects great (being CPU only). Hi poly models can crash open g= l though. However several mac minis could be a great render farm for 3D, as= the CPU is very fast.

- it runs final cut pro like a champ. However if you do= n't have an SSD the internal drive is too slow for HD playback - I hook= ed up a RAID 0 drive through USB 3.0 and now I have no dropped frames in 10= 80P with overlays and supers etc.=A0

- compressor runs like a champ

- works great as a file server and backup system

= - There have been rumors of breakout box graphics cards running through thu= nderbolt - this would allow external graphics processing. This could make t= he mac mini a true desktop workstation killer.=A0

overall highly recommended for many uses


On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:24 PM, polkadoter@aol.com <polkadoter@aol.com&g= t; wrote:
Perfect timing= on this post Teddy. We were also looking at the latest mac mini. My only c= oncern is the graphic card requirements for CS6 compatibility (AE and Premi= ere). =A0 I know the mini can be upgraded to 16mg ram but does the graphics= card have the horsepower for CS6 to do the job for rendering etc. =A0 Anyo= ne have experience with it? =A0Or is there some online compatibility / perf= ormance reference?=A0
Thanks!
Linda=A0


Sent from my iPad

On Feb 11, 2013, at= 10:25 AM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:

or even better, get one= of the new quad core i7 mac minis. All the speed of a brand new laptop for= 1/3 the price, and better connectivity. Even cheaper if you get it on ebay= . worked great for me.

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com> wrote:
Sounds like somebody has a case of the = Mondays.

I interpreted the post as a plea for more info = on ProRes, and didn't detect a platform preference, or any mention of e= ncoding or decoding (other than transcoding to h.264 from ProRes).

Anyway, according to what I read here, there is a solution t= o create ProRes on Windows:


Or, buy a cheap used Mac laptop that runs Compressor.

If you could just go ahead and make sure you do tha= t from now on, that'd be great.



On Feb 11, 2013, at 8:20 AM, mike c= ardeiro wrote:

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From: Jim Curtis <j= pcurtis@me.com>

The decoder for Windows is free from Apple= .


The decoder may= be free, but the OP is talking about encoding, which, as far as I know is = not free on pc.=A0 Personally I am getting tired of everybody I deal with a= ssuming that pro rez is no problemo for me.=A0 I recently needed to upload = a commercial spot for a station and the specs said they wanted prorez, and = the instructions sent from the station talked about how to do this from you= r final cut project which would all be well and good if I wasn't editin= g on Avid!=A0 sorry to rant but it is Monday morning.

Mike Cardeiro
Editor/Animator/Compositor=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
D4 Creative Group - Philadelphia, PA=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
http://www.michaelcardeiro.com/resume/=
http://= www.youtube.com/user/mcardeiro

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