Return-Path: Received: from eatspam.slcc.edu ([144.35.15.69] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4972782 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 23:30:37 +0100 X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1360622200-0437c60716159440001-edO5QZ Received: from vCAS2.slcc.int (vcas2.slcc.int [10.1.11.53]) by eatspam.slcc.edu with ESMTP id xBpNLa7vkJIRQ2qv for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:36:40 -0700 (MST) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: John.Morgan@slcc.edu Received: from EXCH.slcc.int ([127.0.0.1]) by vCAS2.slcc.int ([fe80::8031:551b:9a53:7716%11]) with mapi; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:36:40 -0700 From: John Morgan To: After Effects Mail List Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:36:39 -0700 Subject: RE: [AE] OT: Premiere Pro Question Thread-Topic: [AE] OT: Premiere Pro Question X-ASG-Orig-Subj: RE: [AE] OT: Premiere Pro Question Thread-Index: Ac4Ip46Z0b4eDVpVQa6Lq+yDUW5c9AAAEkRA Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_EAE675A223415848A14AA69EBCDE9D0A72C4203436EXCHslccint_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Barracuda-Connect: vcas2.slcc.int[10.1.11.53] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1360622200 X-Barracuda-URL: http://eatspam.slcc.edu:8000/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at slcc.edu X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.2.122398 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.00 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message --_000_EAE675A223415848A14AA69EBCDE9D0A72C4203436EXCHslccint_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a fast machine w/dual quad core Xeons yielding 16 processor cores in= hyperthreaded mode, 24GB RAM and Quadro 5000 CUDA (not that CUDA helps in = this case.) Only drawback is I've never edited any RED footage of any size = so I can't offer any suggestions or comparisons other than the scalability = of it all. John From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of= Jim Curtis Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 3:31 PM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] OT: Premiere Pro Question On Feb 11, 2013, at 4:08 PM, John Morgan wrote: The "wicked" in Jim's reply depends on the RAM and number of processors on = your machine. :) John True. I have an 8x3GHz with CUDA card, 32G RAM, and the aforementioned RAI= D. In 1/1 mode, my CPU meters maxed and spiked (Same experience in the REDCINE= X app). Far less so at =BC. So, my weak link for smooth playback was CP= U, not io. I did a series of web videos several months ago. I edited in 1280x720, sin= ce that was the destination spec. So, the REDRAW footage was scaled down i= n the Sequences. There was only a layer or two of supers, a fair amount of= Ultra Keying, and my GFX were Dynamically Linked to Ae Comps. The five minute videos exported to H.264 in around three minutes each. So,= I'm comparing the RED exports to other projects with say XDCam HD or EX or= P2 seemed pretty favorable, just based on expectations and experience with= other codecs. I expected that a codec that weighed the CPU down as much a= s RED footage would have taken much longer. Overall, I enjoyed editing RED RAW in Pr w/o having to use proxies. Source= side color correction is great. From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of= Jim Curtis Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 3:03 PM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] OT: Premiere Pro Question I've had the reverse experience. I can't play 3 and 4K and not drop frames= without going to =BC or less resolution. I have a >1.8 GB/s RAID. But, exporting small low res sequences using AME is wicked fast. I use H.2= 64 for reviews. On Feb 11, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Phil Spitler wrote: We can playback RED footage no problem but rendering it or exporting it tak= es forever. How can we export a low quality version for client approval wit= hout a huge render? Any ideas? Phil Phil Spitler | Creative Technologist | Bonfire Labs | t : 415.394.82= 00 m : 415.571.3139 Website | Facebook | LinkedIn This message, and any attachments, is intended only for the use of the addr= essee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential or ot= herwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this = e-mail is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unau= thorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message i= s prohibited. 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I have a = fast machine w/dual quad core Xeons yielding 16 processor cores in hyperthr= eaded mode, 24GB RAM and Quadro 5000 CUDA (not that CUDA helps in this case= .) Only drawback is I’ve never edited any RED footage of any size so = I can’t offer any suggestions or comparisons other than the scalabili= ty of it all.

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John

 

From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] <= b>On Behalf Of Jim Curtis
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 3:3= 1 PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] OT: = Premiere Pro Question

 

 

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On Feb 11, 2013, at 4:08 PM, John = Morgan wrote:



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The “wicked” in Jim= 217;s reply depends on the RAM and number of processors on your machine.&nb= sp; J

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True. &n= bsp;I have an 8x3GHz with CUDA card, 32G RAM, and the aforementioned RAID. =  

 

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In 1/1 mode, my CPU meters maxed and spiked (Same = experience in the REDCINE X app).  Far less so at =BC.   So, my w= eak link for smooth playback was CPU, not io.

 

I did a s= eries of web videos several months ago.  I edited in 1280x720, since t= hat was the destination spec.  So, the REDRAW footage was scaled down = in the Sequences.  There was only a layer or two of supers, a fair amo= unt of Ultra Keying, and my GFX were Dynamically Linked to Ae Comps.

 

The five minute videos exported to H.264 in around three = minutes each.  So, I'm comparing the RED exports to other projects wit= h say XDCam HD or EX or P2 seemed pretty favorable, just based on expectati= ons and experience with other codecs.  I expected that a codec that we= ighed the CPU down as much as RED footage would have taken much longer.

 

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Overall, I enjoyed editing RED RAW in Pr w/o having to= use proxies.  Source side color correction is great.

 

 

 

From:&nbs= p;After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv]&nb= sp;On Behalf Of <= /b>Jim Curtis
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 3:03 PM
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I've had the reverse experience.=  I can't play 3 and 4K and not drop frames without going to =BC or le= ss resolution.  I have a >1.8 GB/s RAID.

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But, exporting small low res sequences using AME is wicked fa= st.  I use H.264 for reviews.

 

 

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On Feb 11, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Phil = Spitler wrote:



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We can playback RED= footage no problem but rendering it or exporting it takes forever. How can= we export a low quality version for client approval without a huge render?=

 

Any ideas?

 

 

Phil

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