Return-Path: Received: from mail-ve0-f172.google.com ([209.85.128.172] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4972793 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 23:48:19 +0100 Received: by mail-ve0-f172.google.com with SMTP id cz11so5771980veb.3 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:54:23 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to :to:references:message-id:x-mailer:x-gm-message-state; bh=SJhUJXEpt8X7o1A3eezdt1vJKb2rX87RaSeSm449J2c=; b=UYXRL6lCfmdCKXlxu2NaT3f13uE+NUncEt3tVRdYbtnWpSEqaFn5P1NmC2dEflDstn /JZgJ5Ay+O1lAHp9v7eKBG/4ElcCaukcdAF1x3SmvoQHHVocjXee3FXYpcPaCZtUDeav dFKCf17Vq8KNsHJScdJMz4OxNKWz0C16tQ+ykkQWGYlyX6lhgbI3brH+O6WUofd2J2J3 gcUm5NRY0252/bkkex96tfBA2nDEbBAJg9PO6UiLLYIklGPHnNYtkGrkQiXV9y5tag2G lIwrq/7NOmUwsa4EE6paStimeMFzU625B+wXtOzzZJMQVr/5xZ3UJWpUhxumr3N676a4 01Ow== X-Received: by 10.52.75.65 with SMTP id a1mr4400306vdw.79.1360623263418; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:54:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [10.0.0.117] ([65.223.58.66]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w5sm19538966vdi.13.2013.02.11.14.54.21 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:54:22 -0800 (PST) From: Phil Spitler Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_022FF6A7-5D5F-4E25-B74F-3C0285808F84" Subject: Re: [AE] OT: Premiere Pro Question Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:54:20 -0800 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <4FB768B1-C1D2-45A3-B11E-D1DD5EB3D151@bonfirelabs.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmFT0e0EcwgAgod3JTv1nxBtwNQ5dqSoI/FnZH+trKYRAEQxrzO1FTBRRLfTGa0nDanNq/Z --Apple-Mail=_022FF6A7-5D5F-4E25-B74F-3C0285808F84 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 We usually use REdCineX to transcode all our footage before editing in = FCP but we are trying to avoid that step as it takes a long time and = usually after we shoot, we want to start editing. So far, PP CS6 seems pretty solid except for this issue of taking a = while to export the footage.=20 Phil Phil Spitler | Creative Technologist | Bonfire Labs | t : = 415.394.8200 m : 415.571.3139 Website | Facebook | LinkedIn On Feb 11, 2013, at 2:31 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: >=20 > On Feb 11, 2013, at 4:08 PM, John Morgan wrote: >=20 >> The =93wicked=94 in Jim=92s reply depends on the RAM and number of = processors on your machine. J >> =20 >> John >> =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > True. I have an 8x3GHz with CUDA card, 32G RAM, and the = aforementioned RAID. =20 >=20 > In 1/1 mode, my CPU meters maxed and spiked (Same experience in the = REDCINE X app). Far less so at =BC. So, my weak link for smooth = playback was CPU, not io. >=20 > I did a series of web videos several months ago. I edited in = 1280x720, since that was the destination spec. So, the REDRAW footage = was scaled down in the Sequences. There was only a layer or two of = supers, a fair amount of Ultra Keying, and my GFX were Dynamically = Linked to Ae Comps. >=20 > The five minute videos exported to H.264 in around three minutes each. = So, I'm comparing the RED exports to other projects with say XDCam HD = or EX or P2 seemed pretty favorable, just based on expectations and = experience with other codecs. I expected that a codec that weighed the = CPU down as much as RED footage would have taken much longer. >=20 > Overall, I enjoyed editing RED RAW in Pr w/o having to use proxies. = Source side color correction is great. >=20 >=20 >=20 >> From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On = Behalf Of Jim Curtis >> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 3:03 PM >> To: After Effects Mail List >> Subject: Re: [AE] OT: Premiere Pro Question >> =20 >> I've had the reverse experience. I can't play 3 and 4K and not drop = frames without going to =BC or less resolution. I have a >1.8 GB/s = RAID. >> =20 >> But, exporting small low res sequences using AME is wicked fast. I = use H.264 for reviews. >> =20 >> =20 >> =20 >> =20 >> On Feb 11, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Phil Spitler wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> We can playback RED footage no problem but rendering it or exporting = it takes forever. How can we export a low quality version for client = approval without a huge render? >> =20 >> Any ideas? >> =20 >> =20 >> Phil >> =20 >> =20 >> =20 >> Phil Spitler | Creative Technologist | Bonfire Labs | t : = 415.394.8200 m : 415.571.3139 >>=20 >> Website | Facebook | LinkedIn >> =20 >> =20 >>=20 >> This message, and any attachments, is intended only for the use of = the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and = confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. = If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient, you are = hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution = or reproduction of this message is prohibited. If you have received this = communication in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and = delete this e-mail and any attachments from your system. =AD=AD =20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_022FF6A7-5D5F-4E25-B74F-3C0285808F84 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 We = usually use REdCineX to transcode all our footage before editing in FCP = but we are trying to avoid that step as it takes a long time and usually = after we shoot, we want to start editing.

So far, PP = CS6 seems pretty solid except for this issue of taking a while to export = the = footage. 

Phil


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signature1 Phil = Spitler  |  Creative Technologist   |  Bonfire Labs  |  t : 415.394.8200  m : = 415.571.3139

Website | Facebook | LinkedIn

On Feb 11, 2013, at 2:31 PM, Jim Curtis wrote:

The =93wicked=94 in Jim=92s reply = depends on the RAM and number of processors on your = machine.  J

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True.  I have an 8x3GHz with = CUDA card, 32G RAM, and the aforementioned RAID. =  

In 1/1 mode, my CPU meters maxed and spiked = (Same experience in the REDCINE X app).  Far less so at =BC.   = So, my weak link for smooth playback was CPU, not = io.

I did a series of web videos several months ago. =  I edited in 1280x720, since that was the destination spec. =  So, the REDRAW footage was scaled down in the Sequences. =  There was only a layer or two of supers, a fair amount of Ultra = Keying, and my GFX were Dynamically Linked to Ae = Comps.

The five minute videos exported to H.264 = in around three minutes each.  So, I'm comparing the RED exports to = other projects with say XDCam HD or EX or P2 seemed pretty favorable, = just based on expectations and experience with other codecs.  I = expected that a codec that weighed the CPU down as much as RED footage = would have taken much longer.

Overall, I = enjoyed editing RED RAW in Pr w/o having to use proxies.  Source = side color correction is = great.



From: After Effects Mail List = [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Jim = Curtis
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 = 3:03 PM
To: After Effects Mail = List
Subject: Re: [AE] OT: Premiere Pro = Question
I've had the reverse = experience.  I can't play 3 and 4K and not drop frames without = going to =BC or less resolution.  I have a >1.8 GB/s = RAID.
But, exporting small low = res sequences using AME is wicked fast.  I use H.264 for = reviews.
On Feb 11, 2013, at 3:48 = PM, Phil Spitler wrote:
We can playback RED = footage no problem but rendering it or exporting it takes forever. How = can we export a low quality version for client approval without a huge = render?
Any = ideas?
  |  Creative Technologist =   |  Bonfire Labs  = |  t : 415.394.8200  m : 415.571.3139

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This = message, and any attachments, is intended only for the use of the = addressee and may contain information that is privileged and = confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. = If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient, you are = hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution = or reproduction of this message is prohibited. If you have received this = communication in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and = delete this e-mail and any attachments from your = system.  =AD=AD  

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