Return-Path: Received: from outmail146037.authsmtp.co.uk ([62.13.146.37] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4980239 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:32:53 +0100 Received: from punt9.authsmtp.com (punt9.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.70]) by punt12.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Kp) with ESMTP id r1JHdClH079511 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 17:39:12 GMT Received: from mail-c233.authsmtp.com (mail-c233.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.233]) by punt9.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Kp) with ESMTP id r1JHdCFH015189 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 17:39:12 GMT Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c-67-169-45-154.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.169.45.154]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id r1JHd65o084245 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 17:39:08 GMT User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.0.121105 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:39:05 -0800 Subject: Re: [AE] Match v1.1 From: Peter Litwinowicz To: After Effects Mail List Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [AE] Match v1.1 In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3444111548_71769300" X-Server-Quench: 43d9772a-7abb-11e2-a49c-0025907707a1 X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCdyYwEUBFZNQRgX IjkJEi5bSAIjKA0K ChgGOyJ3ZX4IThh5 N0tWL1MWNVoARFZf HSJNFVVdTyskC3x3 awtSfQRaaElHVQVj Hk5OXFNUHRtsBAIA AxoBUBxwchpGNjxx Hz42WHUEXEx+d0J4 DE9VFGkAK2NjPGkY V0IJagQFIlFXfx4Q aE0uUHpefGUHZH9p R1BsZ284ZCNlJXYd cSggGBo3SFoAHnYi HlZbdQgA X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633133393137.1021:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3444111548_71769300 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Chris, The stereo plugin right now does the color and feature matching that Ocula provides. It does the transfer of color from one eye to another, and tries to make "features" match from one to the other (like a reflections and lens flares that might be of differing shapes due to specular reflection differents, polarization issues, or simply lens flare differences due to different placement of lens/mirrors etc. with respect to light sources). And where there are obstructions in one view and not the other, we "spread out" the color changes where the registration shows there might be something in one eye that's not in the other. We don't currently do vertical or horizontal alignment adjustment. That said, I think we are better than Ocula's color and matching of features for stereo, but you should determine that for yourself. For the stereo plugin features and settings, you'll get a good feel by watching our tutorial which really gives you a feel for what the plugin can do: http://help.revisionfx.com/tutorial/153/ Pete From: Chris Zwar Reply-To: After Effects Mail List Date: Monday, February 18, 2013 7:59 PM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] Match v1.1 Hi Peter, I remember when this was released I was interested but had email issues at the time and couldn't ask any questions... How would you say this compares to the Ocula plug-in for Nuke? Is it not the same thing, or is there some overlap? We worked on a stereo project last year and all of the footage keying and pre-processing was done in Nuke. The cost of the Ocula plugin to process and align the stereo rushes was astonishing (tens of thousands of dollars just to rent it) - so if this is a low cost alternative for AE that does the same thing then it's very exciting indeed, even if it might be a niche product. Hope it's a success for you! -Chris -----Original Message----- From: Peter Litwinowicz [mailto:pete@revisionfx.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 08:46 AM To: 'After Effects Mail List' Subject: Re: [AE] Match v1.1 Hey all, Just some info on the newly released RE:Match v1.1 RE:Match v1.1 released. A lower priced $89.95 version is now available for multicam shoots, or single camera shoots consisting of multiple shots with different lighting or camera settings, where RE:Match matches as best it can one sequence's overall color appearance to match that of another. RE:Match Pro is $329.95 and adds the support for matching for stereo pairs. For more info: http://www.revisionfx.com/products/rematch/ In this way you can get the automatic color matching plug-in without having to pay for the stereo features. RE:Match has the RE:Match Color plug-in and performs it's color matching by many methods: > Matcing global gain and offsets of the two images > Matching the global mean of the two images > 2 differing histogram methods > Can use a subwindow to calculate the match (presumably to cordon off areas > that should match, excluding areas that are different in the two images), but > then apply the transformation to all the pixels > Can cut and paste a stored transformation from one clip to another > More important features listed here: > http://revisionfx.com/products/rematch/features/ RE:Match Pro includes the stereo plug-in which I've posted about before. Demo here: http://www.revisionfx.com/products/rematch/ Tutorial for RE:Match: http://help.revisionfx.com/tutorial/151/ Tutorial for RE:Match Pro additional stereo plug-in: http://help.revisionfx.com/tutorial/153/ > Pete Litwinowicz RE:Vision Effects, Inc. +---End of message---+ To unsubscribe send any message to --B_3444111548_71769300 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Chris,

The stereo plugin right now does the color and feature matching that Ocula= provides.  It does the transfer of color from one eye to another, and = tries to make "features" match from one to the other (like a reflections and= lens flares that might be of differing shapes due to specular reflection di= fferents, polarization issues, or simply lens flare differences due to diffe= rent placement of lens/mirrors etc. with respect to light sources).  An= d where there are obstructions in one view and not the other, we "spread out= " the color changes where the registration shows there might be something in= one eye that's not in the other.  We don't currently do vertical or ho= rizontal alignment adjustment.  

That said, I = think we are better than Ocula's color and matching of features for stereo, = but you should determine that for yourself.

For the= stereo plugin features and settings, you'll get a good feel by watching our= tutorial which really gives you a feel for what the plugin can do:  http://help.revisionfx.com/= tutorial/153/

Pete

From: Chris Zwar <chris@chriszwar.com>
Reply-To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Date: Monday, February 18, 2013 7:59 PM
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Subject: Re: [AE] Match v1.1

Hi Peter,

I remember when this was relea= sed I was interested but had email issues at the time and couldn't ask any q= uestions...

How would you say this compares to the = Ocula plug-in for Nuke?  Is it not the same thing, or is there som= e overlap?

We worked on a stereo project last year = and all of the footage keying and pre-processing was done in Nuke. &nbs= p;The cost of the Ocula plugin to process and align the stereo rushes was as= tonishing (tens of thousands of dollars just to rent it) - so if this is a l= ow cost alternative for AE that does the same thing then it's very exciting = indeed, even if it might be a niche product.

Hope i= t's a success for you!

-Chris

<= div>-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Litwinowicz [mailto:pete@revisionfx.com]
Sent: T= uesday, February 19, 2013 08:46 AM
To: 'After Effects Mail List'
Subject: Re: [AE] Match v1.1

Hey all,
<product announcement>
Just some info on the newly rel= eased RE:Match v1.1

RE:Match v1.1 released. A lower= priced $89.95 version is now available for
multicam shoots, or si= ngle camera shoots consisting of multiple shots with
different lig= hting or camera settings, where RE:Match matches as best it can
on= e sequence's overall color appearance to match that of another. RE:Match
Pro is $329.95 and adds the support for matching for stereo pairs. Fo= r more

In= this way you can get the automatic color matching plug-in without having
to pay for the stereo features.

RE:Match ha= s the RE:Match Color plug-in and performs it's color matching by
m= any methods:
Matci= ng global gain and offsets of the two images
Matching the global = mean of the two images
2 differing histogram methods
C= an use a subwindow to calculate the match (presumably to cordon off areas
that should match, excluding areas that are different in the two im= ages), but
then apply the transformation to all the pixels
<= div> Can cut and paste a stored transformation from one clip to another
More important features listed here:
RE:Match Pro includes the stereo plug-= in which I've posted about before.

Tutorial for RE:Match: http://help.revisionfx.com/tutorial/151/
Tutorial for RE:Match Pro additional stereo plug-in:

=
</product announcement>

Pete Litwinowicz
RE:Vision Effects, Inc.









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