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[108.29.120.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fr4sm21359914qab.3.2013.03.01.10.38.43 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 01 Mar 2013 10:38:45 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Maffitt Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_641395D2-C496-4CE5-975A-8CDDF202413E" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] Wacom Cintiq 22HD Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 13:38:42 -0500 References: To: "After Effects Mail List" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnoAMCu9PaE92cyjStvKSSaWGd2yHaFbXe+nZO4SjMBnTY2ajQ7RRv5Venlhv8bDgxDNfLcanO5Oc4kRSzAv3FCBW0+HXZ84oU44jdMDfjQvg2sBKrYgnkQjuXX5HYAchVtV343mhSOQxiZ70/UF/loszlPexmTFqV3cwFAD0zIH8gmqWc= --Apple-Mail=_641395D2-C496-4CE5-975A-8CDDF202413E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 LEAP is an interesting tech demo but I would definitely need some = hands-on time to see if it would work for me... and it doesn't ship = until May in any case. I expect they will be at NAB? B > I dothought feel that from the current products the 22HD sits in the = sweet spot. With the extra 600 of the 24HD I'd get a large intuos or = another monitor. >=20 > I've also used the DIY wiimote touch project for presentations and = crude pentouch stuff which works well when all set up, in small monitors = its very good, in larder displays it needs two wiimotes, and it dislikes = too much ambient light. >=20 > btw have you seen this airtouch? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=3Dplayer_embedded&v=3DmQkKyOOyLSs >=20 >=20 > On 01-Mar-13 20:21, Evan Fotis wrote: >> For what its worth, you can now find a refurb 21UX directly from = Wacom at around $1K half price that is. Its rez @1600x1200 instead of = 1920x1080 of the 22HD but i find the vertical space more useful when = drawing. >> On 01-Mar-13 19:56, Teddy Gage wrote: >>> sadly I think the touch / multitouch options are another cool thou = for the 24HD Touch, on top of the 600 premium for the "regular" 24HD = 1920x1200. it would be pretty awesome for 3d sculpting (rotate model as = you paint, etc) but I don't do enough zbrush to justify it. yet.=EF=BF=BD >>>=20 >>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Brian Maffitt = wrote: >>> The Ergo stand looks really nice, and the 24" also has touch = interaction, which the 22HD does not. I admit I think the touch features = might be useful, but the 24" wasn't a shipping option when I got the = 22". But yeah, $600 is a big difference. >>>=20 >>> I do find the 1920 x 1080 22HD screen very useful for video work, = and it has the best color of any of my current monitors. I wish it were = easier/safer to orient the monitor totally vertically when I'm not using = it as a tablet. I can prop the back legs up, but it feels precarious, = and I don't want the thing to topple over and break. >>>=20 >>> Brian >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> It's not worth the extra $600 to go up to the 1920 x 1200 24HD = right? I think that would be too big for my workspace anyway, but I do = like the ergo stand for it. After the 12wx I think anything is going to = feel enormous anyway. That thing is tiny. >>>>=20 >>>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Brian Maffitt = wrote: >>>> I do, it's pretty awesome, and doubles as a nice extension to my = desktop when I'm not using the tablet. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> Anyone use one of these? Thinking of upgrading my trusty = cintiq12WX >>>>>=20 >>>>> --=20 >>>>> Animator & Editor >>>>> www.teddygage.com >>>>> Brooklyn >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> --=20 >>>> Animator & Editor >>>> www.teddygage.com >>>> Brooklyn >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> Animator & Editor >>> www.teddygage.com >>> Brooklyn >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_641395D2-C496-4CE5-975A-8CDDF202413E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
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I dothought feel that from the current products the 22HD sits in the sweet spot. With the extra 600 of the 24HD I'd get a large intuos or another monitor.

I've also used the DIY wiimote touch project for presentations and crude pentouch stuff which works well when all set up, in small monitors its very good, in larder displays it needs two wiimotes, and it dislikes too much ambient light.

btw have you seen this airtouch?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=3Dplayer_embedded&v=3Dm= QkKyOOyLSs


On 01-Mar-13 20:21, Evan Fotis = wrote:
For what its worth, you can now find a refurb 21UX directly from Wacom  at around $1K half price that is. Its rez @1600x1200 instead of 1920x1080 of the 22HD but i find the vertical space more useful when drawing.
On 01-Mar-13 19:56, Teddy Gage = wrote:
sadly I think the touch / multitouch options are another cool thou for the 24HD Touch, on top of the 600 premium for the "regular" 24HD 1920x1200. it would be pretty awesome for 3d sculpting (rotate model as you paint, etc) but I don't do enough zbrush to justify it. yet.=EF=BF=BD

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:48 PM, = Brian Maffitt <brian@totaltraining.com> wrote:
The Ergo stand looks really nice, and the 24" also has touch interaction, which the 22HD does not. I admit I think the touch features might be useful, but the 24" wasn't a shipping option when I got the 22". But yeah, $600 is a big difference.

I do find the 1920 x 1080 22HD screen very useful for video work, and it has the best color of any of my current monitors. I wish it were easier/safer to orient the monitor totally vertically when I'm not using it as a tablet. I can prop the back legs up, but it feels precarious, and I don't want the thing to topple over and break.
Brian


It's not worth the extra $600 to go up to the 1920 x 1200 24HD right? I think that would be too big for my workspace anyway, but I do like the ergo stand for it. After the 12wx I think anything is going to feel enormous anyway. That thing is tiny.

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 = at 12:27 PM, Brian Maffitt <brian@totaltraining.com> wrote:
I do, = it's pretty awesome, and doubles as a nice extension to my desktop when I'm not using the tablet.


Anyone use one of these? Thinking of upgrading my trusty cintiq12WX

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