Return-Path: Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.195] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4994383 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 19:40:57 +0100 Received: from [10.1.1.213] (71-13-195-18.static.eucl.wi.charter.com [71.13.195.18]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MMkwJ-1U9LT22g2B-008O2A; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 13:47:40 -0500 From: Steve Oakley Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_1D41E2FA-A26C-413F-931F-84F5E55804CB" Message-Id: <93F53E7F-E335-4A6B-A8DF-01CC31BFFE94@practicali.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Optimizing a 1.5GB AE file Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 12:47:38 -0600 References: To: "After Effects Mail List" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:DnuBMibSUGLkIkJl+Dzl4ulLFOwRXx/l8m7j0WYRY/l Fnw/uIzAsNPUxXk6EhWoHtnZAVyntycpzC1uYblxczGPX0oMby x7hgS1KAv9FWGCg6CMFbY3g0A4PrZAsNhM8KdaOYqPZq6LTI6/ a4Ikhr/nvEUO1hEzkooud2s6YLnLy0XKMxn+R9S393QX1Bchuw fYZi6eUYUK3Ld1PsSQdg0umxMen0byahIQsfQFRA1+oOszq6yD 9yzfgottEeuVneqRByRN7LzCBRnoiXBxYAr3Q9MULHJaL2xfFO L1VOOegyEzBt0Yk6R6izL49eTnLMmmZxtp7zi1JUz9s16FbPvJ qmq4dEczBzIu2Zb63YqgVStICSsxTlgYAahbxXXpWV3VFLzGvP O3aj89HQJMrVw== --Apple-Mail=_1D41E2FA-A26C-413F-931F-84F5E55804CB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 what would work is a 3 or 4 drive SATA array, internal. with 3TB drives, = 3 HD's I'm getting 525mb/sec. if I had 4 I'd expect 700mb/sec. cost is = reasonable again these days. I'd consider it billable. oh, stay away = from toshiba 3TB's, get hitachi's - slightly slower but at least they = work. S On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: > he said the raw files are over 2.5 TB of media. The slowdown probably = comes from reading the individual files off your media storage to = assemble the sequence. I have run into this problem with sequences, but = never on this scale. The SSD wouldn't help much if you only plan on = having the project file on it. You'd need a 2.5 TB SSD. Hope the client = has a couple hundred thousand dollars on hand... >=20 > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Brian Higgins = wrote: > How much media do you have? If you're saying that the project file + = media are 1.5GB, an SSD probably won't help you that much. My guess is = that the long load times are from AE having to process the camera raw = files into usable pixels. Raw flexibility comes with a heavy = performance hit! > =20 >=20 > -bH >=20 > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Stephen van Vuuren = wrote: > JPG Proxies were used for the assembly/online. But render all have = been replaced with RAW for a final CC =96 client did that =96 I=92m just = doing the DCP render but have to open/close the file a number of times, = save. It takes several minutes to save. >=20 > =20 >=20 > I=92m going to do short render test but I=92m thinking of charging the = client for an SSD drive. >=20 > =20 >=20 > stephen van vuuren >=20 > 336.202.4777 >=20 > =20 >=20 > http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ >=20 > http://www.sv2dcp.com/ >=20 > http://www.sv2studios.com/ >=20 > =20 >=20 > A film is =96 or should be =96 more like music than like fiction. It = should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=92s = behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later. >=20 > =96Stanley Kubrick >=20 > =20 >=20 > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On = Behalf Of Teddy Gage > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:27 PM >=20 >=20 > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: Re: [AE] Optimizing a 1.5GB AE file >=20 > =20 >=20 > Jesus christ. Buy a mainframe from IBM? Honestly the only thing I can = think of is to bake the pics from .raw to JPG proxies.=20 >=20 > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Stephen van Vuuren = wrote: >=20 > I=92ve got a client supplied AE CS6 project file that is 1.5Gb =96 = takes an hour and half to open. It=92s a 37 minute 4K film that I=92m = creating a DCP. It=92s already reduced. It=92s created from DSLR pics =96 = 2.6 TB of RAW files. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Any under the hood performance tweaks that might help AE handle the = file better? The render machine I have does not have a SSD unfortunately = which would help a bit with load times it appears the load is mostly = checking the 2.6 TB of RAW files. >=20 > =20 >=20 > stephen van vuuren >=20 > 336.202.4777 >=20 > =20 >=20 > http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ >=20 > http://www.sv2dcp.com/ >=20 > http://www.sv2studios.com/ >=20 > =20 >=20 > A film is =96 or should be =96 more like music than like fiction. It = should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=92s = behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later. >=20 > =96Stanley Kubrick >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > Animator & Editor > www.teddygage.com > Brooklyn >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > brian higgins | creative director > Sol Design > 312.706.5500 > higgins@soldesignfx.com > soldesignfx.com > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Animator & Editor > www.teddygage.com > Brooklyn --Apple-Mail=_1D41E2FA-A26C-413F-931F-84F5E55804CB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 what = would work is a 3 or 4 drive SATA array, internal. with 3TB drives, 3 = HD's I'm getting 525mb/sec. if I had 4 I'd expect 700mb/sec. cost is = reasonable again these days. I'd consider it billable. oh, stay away = from toshiba 3TB's, get hitachi's - slightly slower but at least they = work.

S

On Mar 5, 2013, at = 12:00 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> = wrote:

he said the raw files are over 2.5 TB of media. The = slowdown probably comes from reading the individual files off your media = storage to assemble the sequence. I have run into this problem with = sequences, but never on this scale. The SSD wouldn't help much if you = only plan on having the project file on it. You'd need a 2.5 TB SSD. = Hope the client has a couple hundred thousand dollars on hand...

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Brian = Higgins <higgins@soldesignfx.com> = wrote:
How much media do you have?  If you're saying that the project file = + media are 1.5GB, an SSD probably won't help you that much.  My = guess is that the long load times are from AE having to process the = camera raw files into usable pixels.  Raw flexibility comes with a = heavy performance hit!
 

-bH

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:35 AM, = Stephen van Vuuren <stephen@sv2studios.com> wrote:

JPG Proxies were used for the assembly/online. But = render all have been replaced with RAW for a final CC =96 client did = that =96 I=92m just doing the DCP render but have to open/close the file = a number of times, save. It takes several minutes to = save.

 

I=92m going to do short render test but I=92m = thinking of charging the client for an SSD = drive.

 

stephen van vuuren

336.202.4777

 

http://www.insaturnsrings.com/<= b>

http://www.sv2dcp.com/

http://www.sv2studios.com/

 

A film is =96 or should be =96 more like music = than like fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The = theme, what=92s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes = later.

=96Stanley = Kubrick

 

From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Teddy = Gage
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:27 PM


To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: = Re: [AE] Optimizing a 1.5GB AE file

 

Jesus christ. Buy a mainframe from IBM? Honestly the only thing I can = think of is to bake the pics from .raw to JPG = proxies. 

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Stephen van Vuuren = <stephen@sv2studios.com> = wrote:

I=92ve got a client supplied AE CS6 project = file that is 1.5Gb =96 takes an hour and half to open. It=92s a 37 = minute 4K film that I=92m creating a DCP. It=92s already reduced. It=92s = created from DSLR pics =96 2.6 TB of RAW files.

 

Any = under the hood performance tweaks that might help AE handle the file = better? The render machine I have does not have a SSD unfortunately = which would help a bit with load times it appears the load is mostly = checking the 2.6 TB of RAW files.

 

stephen van vuuren

336.202.4777

 

http://www.insaturnsrings.com/<= /u>

http://www.sv2dcp.com/

<= p class=3D"MsoNormal">http://www.sv2studios.com/

 

A film is =96 or = should be =96 more like music than like fiction. It should be a = progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=92s behind the = emotion, the meaning, all that comes = later.

=96Stanley = Kubrick

 



 

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