Return-Path: Received: from mail-wg0-f48.google.com ([74.125.82.48] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4994458 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 21:01:27 +0100 Received: by mail-wg0-f48.google.com with SMTP id 16so6399648wgi.27 for ; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 12:08:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FyDCb/jWbtYLGZCZQ2dl9FLUvFmuc1kQQghrTj2QSO8=; b=Z+Ee1fRyTnenpyqxSti2+x+bGQcOgIlutSDaKWlL1KNpHsDP6SFpn18EzJNRBUw6tO 06PebGRoVxQDnmgSQgsdnHQQSw2B7yffVJoMdviBKLfuMKyxyE5AdDGqn26WrbsWtZ// nNoL8fqK7+E3mBOTCors8W4igiJxsFtitK1yLawGK/wq5xAL6FpvfHetU2VxgMXSUsy7 7Dg2y5lME6fh6G/7jmhRDVnVule62GS+gTfDyPjQVG2PLtew8crdt7WrJ55I9xDhYplt Nt5xh+gUOzVIk96pG19sewBqzde/j3v87HZGH03WIFfjDt95Mn3igwKC7Dm4jf4yDhvi p2GA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.181.11.164 with SMTP id ej4mr21590025wid.29.1362514093203; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 12:08:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.83.99 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 12:08:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 15:08:13 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Optimizing a 1.5GB AE file From: rendernyc To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0438914b86e91d04d73308ca --f46d0438914b86e91d04d73308ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable any chance of breaking the project in to chunks? move the seqs so that AE doesnt seem them should help load the project faster. break it in to chunks that are more easily loadable... 6 x 6 min and a 7min i thats workign better? On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Steve Oakley wrote: > what would work is a 3 or 4 drive SATA array, internal. with 3TB drives, = 3 > HD's I'm getting 525mb/sec. if I had 4 I'd expect 700mb/sec. cost is > reasonable again these days. I'd consider it billable. oh, stay away from > toshiba 3TB's, get hitachi's - slightly slower but at least they work. > > S > > On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: > > he said the raw files are over 2.5 TB of media. The slowdown probably > comes from reading the individual files off your media storage to assembl= e > the sequence. I have run into this problem with sequences, but never on > this scale. The SSD wouldn't help much if you only plan on having the > project file on it. You'd need a 2.5 TB SSD. Hope the client has a couple > hundred thousand dollars on hand... > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Brian Higgins w= rote: > >> How much media do you have? If you're saying that the project file + >> media are 1.5GB, an SSD probably won't help you that much. My guess is >> that the long load times are from AE having to process the camera raw fi= les >> into usable pixels. Raw flexibility comes with a heavy performance hit! >> >> >> -bH >> >> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Stephen van Vuuren < >> stephen@sv2studios.com> wrote: >> >>> JPG Proxies were used for the assembly/online. But render all have been >>> replaced with RAW for a final CC =96 client did that =96 I=92m just doi= ng the DCP >>> render but have to open/close the file a number of times, save. It take= s >>> several minutes to save.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> I=92m going to do short render test but I=92m thinking of charging the >>> client for an SSD drive.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *stephen van vuuren* >>> >>> 336.202.4777**** >>> >>> * * >>> >>> *http://www.insaturnsrings.com/*** >>> >>> *http://www.sv2dcp.com/* >>> >>> *http://www.sv2studios.com/* >>> >>> * * >>> >>> *A film is =96 or should be =96 more like music than like fiction. It >>> should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=92s behi= nd the >>> emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.* >>> >>> =96*Stanley Kubrick***** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *From:* After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] *On >>> Behalf Of *Teddy Gage >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:27 PM >>> >>> *To:* After Effects Mail List >>> *Subject:* Re: [AE] Optimizing a 1.5GB AE file**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Jesus christ. Buy a mainframe from IBM? Honestly the only thing I can >>> think of is to bake the pics from .raw to JPG proxies. **** >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Stephen van Vuuren < >>> stephen@sv2studios.com> wrote:**** >>> >>> I=92ve got a client supplied AE CS6 project file that is 1.5Gb =96 take= s an >>> hour and half to open. It=92s a 37 minute 4K film that I=92m creating a= DCP. >>> It=92s already reduced. It=92s created from DSLR pics =96 2.6 TB of RAW= files. >>> **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Any under the hood performance tweaks that might help AE handle the fil= e >>> better? The render machine I have does not have a SSD unfortunately whi= ch >>> would help a bit with load times it appears the load is mostly checking= the >>> 2.6 TB of RAW files.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> *stephen van vuuren***** >>> >>> 336.202.4777**** >>> >>> * ***** >>> >>> *http://www.insaturnsrings.com/***** >>> >>> *http://www.sv2dcp.com/***** >>> >>> *http://www.sv2studios.com/***** >>> >>> * ***** >>> >>> *A film is =96 or should be =96 more like music than like fiction. It >>> should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=92s behi= nd the >>> emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.***** >>> >>> =96*Stanley Kubrick***** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> >>> >>> **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> -- >>> Animator & Editor >>> www.teddygage.com >>> Brooklyn**** >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *brian higgins | creative director >> Sol Design >> 312.706.5500 >> higgins@soldesignfx.com >> soldesignfx.com >> * >> >> >> > > > > > -- > Animator & Editor > www.teddygage.com > Brooklyn > > > --=20 danny princz exposedideas.com --f46d0438914b86e91d04d73308ca Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
any chance of breaking the project in to chunks?

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move the seqs so that AE doesnt seem them should help load the pr= oject faster.

break it in to chunks that are more = easily loadable... 6 x 6 min and a 7min i thats workign better?




On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Steve Oakley <s= teveo@practicali.com> wrote:
what wou= ld work is a 3 or 4 drive SATA array, internal. with 3TB drives, 3 HD's= I'm getting 525mb/sec. if I had 4 I'd expect 700mb/sec. cost is re= asonable again these days. I'd consider it billable. oh, stay away from= toshiba 3TB's, get hitachi's - slightly slower but at least they w= ork.

S

On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:

he said the raw files are over 2.5 TB of media. The slowdown probably comes= from reading the individual files off your media storage to assemble the s= equence. I have run into this problem with sequences, but never on this sca= le. The SSD wouldn't help much if you only plan on having the project f= ile on it. You'd need a 2.5 TB SSD. Hope the client has a couple hundre= d thousand dollars on hand...

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Brian Higgi= ns <higgins@soldesignfx.com> wrote:
How much media do you have? =A0If you're saying that the project file += media are 1.5GB, an SSD probably won't help you that much. =A0My guess= is that the long load times are from AE having to process the camera raw f= iles into usable pixels. =A0Raw flexibility comes with a heavy performance = hit!
=A0

-bH

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Stephen van Vuuren <st= ephen@sv2studios.com> wrote:

JPG Proxies were used for the assembly/onlin= e. But render all have been replaced with RAW for a final CC =96 client did= that =96 I=92m just doing the DCP render but have to open/close the file a= number of times, save. It takes several minutes to save.

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I=92m going to do shor= t render test but I=92m thinking of charging the client for an SSD drive.

=A0<= /u>

stephen = van vuuren

336.202.4777

=A0

http://www.insaturnsrings.com/

http://www.sv2dcp= .com/

http://www= .sv2studios.com/

=A0

A film is = =96 or should be =96 more like music than like fiction. It should be a prog= ression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=92s behind the emotion, the = meaning, all that comes later.

=96Stanley Kubrick=

= =A0

From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Tedd= y Gage
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:27 PM


To:= After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] Optimizing a 1.5GB AE = file

= =A0

Jesus christ. Buy a mainframe from IBM? Honestly the only thing I can think= of is to bake the pics from .raw to JPG proxies.=A0

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Stephen = van Vuuren <= stephen@sv2studios.com> wrote:

I=92ve got a client supplied AE CS6 project fil= e that is 1.5Gb =96 takes an hour and half to open. It=92s a 37 minute 4K f= ilm that I=92m creating a DCP. It=92s already reduced. It=92s created from = DSLR pics =96 2.6 TB of RAW files.

=A0

Any unde= r the hood performance tweaks that might help AE handle the file better? Th= e render machine I have does not have a SSD unfortunately which would help = a bit with load times it appears the load is mostly checking the 2.6 TB of = RAW files.

=A0

steph= en van vuuren

336.202.4777

=A0

ht= tp://www.insaturnsrings.com/

http://www.sv2dcp.com/

http://www.sv2studios.com/

=A0

<= i>A film is =96 or should be =96 more like= music than like fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings.= The theme, what=92s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.=

=96Stanley Kubri= ck

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Animator & Editor
www.teddygage.com
Brooklyn
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--
brian higgins | creative director
Sol =A0Design
312.706.5500
higgins@soldesignfx.com
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-- Animator & Editor
www.teddygage.com
Brooklyn




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