Return-Path: Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.27.211] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4994856 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 04:51:42 +0100 Received: from omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 83mp1l0051GXsucAB3yUpD; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 03:58:28 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.23] ([67.171.142.191]) by omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 83yT1l00L47yhjX8U3yTDn; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 03:58:28 +0000 From: Tim Thiessen Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--164465518 Subject: Re: [AE] editable AE text output from photoshop? Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 19:58:27 -0800 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20121106; t=1362542308; bh=MM05BlnUikY5jA1ma2Op08U4gQTSKHp1BBv4AddsMWI=; h=Received:Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:To: Message-Id; b=SAZ1bgdu9ihtJ3hC33/OiygOodmwi9mY6GZaaRBEyFqUY6Y3wh8k5V5P82kTUzlLr 8qUYhx+Qzg+Ljld2ZB+sBffYYxwZkPSh3cAcQko7GE920q9WTj0dk1ex1ADV3Ew2LO lxT2nAlSRyqlOnm92WXbaKnXhja9pRNMk3L7dczvc2MHkOw89DyIcuyAeCX64B7oic 1kmV7h/Nzo+F9m3tT8WHNcS8vhxvO6l3PHjIPgEvr7VIm5SPlJbKYALZq/9mn2GP3J oXekQi1C9vI/YvmCXQA0V97+KRznchhXKJ0Gs0n+uV9p7eIAXvfDa7C5y4v7S9ecM7 T9WmDCHAsdPRQ== --Apple-Mail-2--164465518 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 my problem with layer styles is render order. They render after = everything else - try stroking some live text using layer styles and = then try to use motion blur - AE applies the motion blur and then the = layer styles strokes the blurred text - it looks like A$$. I have seen = this on the air a couple of times. Layer styles just don't play well = with others. plus if you looks a the stroke layer style vs the stroked = characters inside AE, you'll see how chunky the layer styles are. timt On Mar 5, 2013, at 6:08 PM, adam mercado wrote: > Whats wrong with layer styles? They're a means to an end. And they are = in AE as well, just as they are in PS. >=20 > how do you create your drop shadows without layer styles? 3D lighting = exclusively? >=20 >=20 > Adam Mercado > Influxx Media Production > Fullerton, CA >=20 > Moving Images. For Business > 714=B0928=B09896 > http://www.influxx.com > http://www.twitter.com/influxx > http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx > http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive > http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mar 5, 2013, at 2:13 PM, pixelbot@comcast.net wrote: >=20 >> I like how you put that - at my last place of employment I had the = designer trained to do all his design work inside AE, not so much any = more. >>=20 >> tt >>=20 >> From: "Jim Curtis" >> To: "After Effects Mail List" >> Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 2:08:31 PM >> Subject: Re: [AE] editable AE text output from photoshop? >>=20 >> True, I'm not immune from getting "help" from the agencies. I'm sure = many of us often wish they wouldn't help so much. >>=20 >>=20 >> On Mar 5, 2013, at 4:02 PM, pixelbot@comcast.net wrote: >>=20 >> no creating text in ae keeps you from the bad habit of having to use = layer styles, unfortunately I work with "designers" that have to create = things in photoshop and liberally dose the type with layer styles. >>=20 >> tt >>=20 >> From: "Jim Curtis" >> To: "After Effects Mail List" >> Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 1:57:48 PM >> Subject: Re: [AE] editable AE text output from photoshop? >>=20 >> Gee, well color me embarrassed. I've been avoiding creating type in = Ps all this time. >>=20 >> But, there's another reason. I still think Ae is the place to do = still frame graphics with text. That's because it's so easy to change = fonts, sizes, color, etc. on a whole project when you put all them in a = single comp in Ae by selecting all the layers and then making changes to = all the text at once. >>=20 >> And plus, it's pretty simple to do alignments of all your text, if = they all exist in a single Comp in Ae. >>=20 >> I do this: Create text in Ae, where each "page" of text is one frame = in duration. All my text has a common BG that's on the lower layers in = the Comp. Export as a numbered still sequence, like PNG, and bring = those into Pr for placement. >>=20 >> If there are any changes, I can make them in Ae, designate those = frames as the Work Area, and re-render, over-writing the existing files. = Then the changes show up automatically in Pr. >>=20 >>=20 >> On Mar 5, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Bruce Wainer wrote: >>=20 >> Jim, >>=20 >> I remember it was in CS3... but that was my first version, so beyond = that I have no idea. >>=20 >> Bruce Wainer >>=20 >>=20 >> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 3:44 PM, scott.aelist = wrote: >> Unfortuantely it doesn't work for AI layers. >>=20 >>=20 >> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: >> Ah! Me neither! How long has that been there? >>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-2--164465518 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 my = problem with layer styles is render order. They render after everything = else - try stroking some live text using layer styles and then try to = use motion blur - AE applies the motion blur and then the layer styles = strokes the blurred text - it looks like A$$. I have seen this on the = air a couple of times. Layer styles just don't play well with others. = plus if you looks a the stroke layer style vs the stroked characters = inside AE, you'll see how chunky the layer styles = are.

timt

On Mar 5, = 2013, at 6:08 PM, adam mercado wrote:

Whats wrong with layer styles? They're a means to an end. And they are = in AE as well, just as they are in PS.

how do you = create your drop shadows without layer styles? 3D lighting = exclusively?



On Mar 5, 2013, at 2:13 PM, pixelbot@comcast.net = wrote:

I = like how you put that - at my last place of employment I had the = designer trained to do all his design work inside AE, not so much any = more.

tt

From: "Jim Curtis" <jpcurtis@me.com>
To: "After Effects Mail = List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>Sent: Tuesday, = March 5, 2013 2:08:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] editable AE = text output from photoshop?

True, I'm not immune from getting = "help" from the agencies.  I'm sure many of us often wish they = wouldn't help so much.


On Mar 5, 2013, = at 4:02 PM, pixelbot@comcast.net wrote:

no = creating text in ae keeps you from the bad habit of having to use layer = styles, unfortunately I work with "designers" that have to create things = in photoshop and liberally dose the type with layer = styles.

tt

From: "Jim Curtis" <jpcurtis@me.com>
To: "After Effects Mail = List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 = 1:57:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] editable AE = text output from photoshop?

Gee, well color me embarrassed. =  I've been avoiding creating type in Ps all this = time.

But, there's another reason.  I still = think Ae is the place to do still frame graphics with text.  That's = because it's so easy to change fonts, sizes, color, etc. on a whole = project when you put all them in a single comp in Ae by selecting all = the layers and then making changes to all the text at = once.

And plus, it's pretty simple to do = alignments of all your text, if they all exist in a single Comp in = Ae.

I do this: Create text in Ae, where each = "page" of text is one frame in duration.  All my text has a common = BG that's on the lower layers in the Comp.  Export as a numbered = still sequence, like PNG, and bring those into Pr for = placement.

If there are any changes, I can make = them in Ae, designate those frames as the Work Area, and re-render, = over-writing the existing files.  Then the changes show up = automatically in Pr.


On Mar 5, = 2013, at 3:46 PM, Bruce Wainer wrote:

Jim,

I remember it was in CS3... but that was my = first version, so beyond that I have no idea.

Bruce = Wainer


On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 3:44 PM, scott.aelist <scott.aelist@gmail.com> wrote:
Unfortuantely it doesn't work for AI layers.


On = Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com> wrote:
Ah!  Me = neither!  How long has that been = there?

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