Return-Path: Received: from host23.canaca.com ([66.49.161.151] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4994887 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 06:37:14 +0100 Received: from static184-169-61-119.r.rev.accesscomm.ca ([184.169.61.119]:35296 helo=[10.0.1.7]) by host23.canaca.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UD78x-0006ww-SY for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 00:44:00 -0500 Subject: Re: [AE] editable AE text output from photoshop? References: From: Jack Tunnicliffe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5F8FE135-3174-496F-A496-9459252EB8F9 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B146) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 23:43:59 -0600 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host23.canaca.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - javapost.ca X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: host23.canaca.com: authenticated_id: jack+javapost.ca/only user confirmed/virtual account not confirmed X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: --Apple-Mail-5F8FE135-3174-496F-A496-9459252EB8F9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting, Tim. I had the same complaint about layer styles but have never= voiced it. Your comments really need to be considered or addressed. Jack Tunnicliffe Javapost Production Sent from my iPhone On 2013-03-05, at 9:58 PM, Tim Thiessen wrote: > my problem with layer styles is render order. They render after everything= else - try stroking some live text using layer styles and then try to use m= otion blur - AE applies the motion blur and then the layer styles strokes th= e blurred text - it looks like A$$. I have seen this on the air a couple of t= imes. Layer styles just don't play well with others. plus if you looks a the= stroke layer style vs the stroked characters inside AE, you'll see how chun= ky the layer styles are. >=20 > timt >=20 > On Mar 5, 2013, at 6:08 PM, adam mercado wrote: >=20 >> Whats wrong with layer styles? They're a means to an end. And they are in= AE as well, just as they are in PS. >>=20 >> how do you create your drop shadows without layer styles? 3D lighting exc= lusively? >>=20 >>=20 >> Adam Mercado >> Influxx Media Production >> Fullerton, CA >>=20 >> Moving Images. For Business >> 714=C2=B0928=C2=B09896 >> http://www.influxx.com >> http://www.twitter.com/influxx >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx >> http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Mar 5, 2013, at 2:13 PM, pixelbot@comcast.net wrote: >>=20 >>> I like how you put that - at my last place of employment I had the desig= ner trained to do all his design work inside AE, not so much any more. >>>=20 >>> tt >>>=20 >>> From: "Jim Curtis" >>> To: "After Effects Mail List" >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 2:08:31 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AE] editable AE text output from photoshop? >>>=20 >>> True, I'm not immune from getting "help" from the agencies. I'm sure ma= ny of us often wish they wouldn't help so much. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Mar 5, 2013, at 4:02 PM, pixelbot@comcast.net wrote: >>>=20 >>> no creating text in ae keeps you from the bad habit of having to use lay= er styles, unfortunately I work with "designers" that have to create things i= n photoshop and liberally dose the type with layer styles. >>>=20 >>> tt >>>=20 >>> From: "Jim Curtis" >>> To: "After Effects Mail List" >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 1:57:48 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AE] editable AE text output from photoshop? >>>=20 >>> Gee, well color me embarrassed. I've been avoiding creating type in Ps a= ll this time. >>>=20 >>> But, there's another reason. I still think Ae is the place to do still f= rame graphics with text. That's because it's so easy to change fonts, sizes= , color, etc. on a whole project when you put all them in a single comp in A= e by selecting all the layers and then making changes to all the text at onc= e. >>>=20 >>> And plus, it's pretty simple to do alignments of all your text, if they a= ll exist in a single Comp in Ae. >>>=20 >>> I do this: Create text in Ae, where each "page" of text is one frame in d= uration. All my text has a common BG that's on the lower layers in the Comp= . Export as a numbered still sequence, like PNG, and bring those into Pr fo= r placement. >>>=20 >>> If there are any changes, I can make them in Ae, designate those frames a= s the Work Area, and re-render, over-writing the existing files. Then the c= hanges show up automatically in Pr. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Mar 5, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Bruce Wainer wrote: >>>=20 >>> Jim, >>>=20 >>> I remember it was in CS3... but that was my first version, so beyond tha= t I have no idea. >>>=20 >>> Bruce Wainer >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 3:44 PM, scott.aelist wr= ote: >>>> Unfortuantely it doesn't work for AI layers. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: >>>>> Ah! Me neither! How long has that been there? >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-5F8FE135-3174-496F-A496-9459252EB8F9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Interesting, Tim. I had the same compl= aint about layer styles but have never voiced it. Your comments really need t= o be considered or addressed.

Jack Tunnicliffe
Javapos= t Production

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-0= 3-05, at 9:58 PM, Tim Thiessen <p= ixelbot@comcast.net> wrote:

my problem with layer styles is render order. They render after everythin= g else - try stroking some live text using layer styles and then try to use m= otion blur - AE applies the motion blur and then the layer styles strokes th= e blurred text - it looks like A$$. I have seen this on the air a couple of t= imes. Layer styles just don't play well with others. plus if you looks a the= stroke layer style vs the stroked characters inside AE, you'll see how chun= ky the layer styles are.

timt

On Mar 5, 2013, at 6:08 PM, adam mercado wrote:

Whats wrong with layer styles? They're a means to an end. And they are in AE= as well, just as they are in PS.

how do you create your d= rop shadows without layer styles? 3D lighting exclusively?


Adam Mercado
Influxx Media Production<= /div>
Fullerton, CA

Moving Images. For Business


I like how you put that - at my last place of employment I ha= d the designer trained to do all his design work inside AE, not so much any m= ore.

tt

From: "Jim Curtis" <jpcurtis@me.com>
To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 2:08:31 P= M
Subject: Re: [= AE] editable AE text output from photoshop?

True, I'm not immune from= getting "help" from the agencies.  I'm sure many of us often wish they= wouldn't help so much.


On Mar 5, 2013, at 4= :02 PM, pixelbot@comcast.net wrote:

no creating text in ae keeps you from th= e bad habit of having to use layer styles, unfortunately I work with "design= ers" that have to create things in photoshop and liberally dose the type wit= h layer styles.

tt

From: "Jim Curtis" <jpcurtis@me.com>
To:<= span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> "After Effects Mail Li= st" <AE-List= @media-motion.tv>
Sent:&n= bsp;Tuesday, March 5, 2013 1:57:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] editable AE text output fr= om photoshop?

Gee, well color me embarrassed.  I've been avoidin= g creating type in Ps all this time.

But, there's another= reason.  I still think Ae is the place to do still frame graphics with= text.  That's because it's so easy to change fonts, sizes, color, etc.= on a whole project when you put all them in a single comp in Ae by selectin= g all the layers and then making changes to all the text at once.
=
And plus, it's pretty simple to do alignments of all your tex= t, if they all exist in a single Comp in Ae.

I do t= his: Create text in Ae, where each "page" of text is one frame in duration. &= nbsp;All my text has a common BG that's on the lower layers in the Comp. &nb= sp;Export as a numbered still sequence, like PNG, and bring those into Pr fo= r placement.

If there are any changes, I can make t= hem in Ae, designate those frames as the Work Area, and re-render, over-writ= ing the existing files.  Then the changes show up automatically in Pr.<= /div>


On Mar 5, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Bruce Wai= ner wrote:

Jim,

I remember it was in CS3... but that was my first v= ersion, so beyond that I have no idea.

Bruce Wainer


On Tue, Mar 5, 2= 013 at 3:44 PM, scott.aelist <scott.aelist@gmail.com> wrote:
Unfortuantely it doesn't work for AI layers.=


O= n Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com> wrote:
Ah! &= nbsp;Me neither!  How long has that been there?
<= /div>




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