Return-Path: Received: from toroondcbmts04-srv.bellnexxia.net ([207.236.237.38] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4995806 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 00:13:36 +0100 Received: from toip35-bus.srvr.bell.ca ([67.69.240.36]) by toroondcbmts04-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20130306232024.TGAW25653.toroondcbmts04-srv.bellnexxia.net@toip35-bus.srvr.bell.ca> for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 18:20:24 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkYCAH3KN1FGMVN//2dsb2JhbAANNsQ9gVIjgx4BAQEDAToUMAcECw0EBAEBAScHMRUDBggGCAsdBIdsqB+TbI1bfigSBoJZYQOIbI1fgR6EfY18gVQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,798,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="414236783" Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.11]) ([70.49.83.127]) by toip35-bus.srvr.bell.ca with ESMTP; 06 Mar 2013 18:20:23 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: [AE] What? Why? Ouch! From: Chris Bobotis In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 18:20:23 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <353735D1-3FE7-4F1A-86F5-4636EBD91689@mettle.com> References: To: "After Effects Mail List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Michael the concept behind DS was excellent and in some ways it is still = miles ahead of all others. In other ways... well you said a mouthful ;-)=20= Much of what was implemented at the core of DS was re-purposed in XSI = and eventually made it's way to some of the Avid products. Avid still has not figured out what to do with DS IMHO - too afraid to = cannibalize the Composer franchise I guess - if they did it could still = be a real contender. But then again the original plan for AE was much grander at least that = is how it was explained to me by one of the original members of the AE = team. AE was but one component in the original plan. Cheers, Chris mettle.com On 2013-03-06, at 5:57 PM, Michael Powers wrote: > We had a DS in here replacing our Smoke....I can totally understand = not using DS ;) >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On = Behalf Of Chris Bobotis > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:39 PM > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: Re: [AE] What? Why? Ouch! >=20 > Jim we worked on the original design, packaging, motion graphics etc. = etc. for Softimage (now Avid) DS >=20 > We used Adobe products to create all of it. >=20 > Cheers, > Chris > mettle.com >=20 >=20 > On 2013-03-06, at 5:25 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: >=20 >> That was my economical interpretation. She explained this Maffit = genius projected film on to falling snow, and photographed it. =20 >>=20 >> Sounds pretty "artsy fartsy" to me. >>=20 >> As for Brian Higgins' explanation about high end post houses... I get = that. They use the tools they always use. I was just thinking that if = I were running the show at Adobe, I'd prohibit their vendors from = mentioning competitors' products in connection with the work they did = for us. And I'd probably give preference in job awards to a house that = used Adobe products. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Mar 6, 2013, at 3:57 PM, Brian Maffitt wrote: >>=20 >>> Wait, "Artsy Fartsy"? >>>=20 >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On=20 >>> Behalf Of Michael Powers >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 4:25 PM >>> To: After Effects Mail List >>> Subject: Re: [AE] What? Why? Ouch! >>>=20 >>> Many years ago, when we were a linear post house, we cut a "very big=20= >>> NLE company's" NAB videos on Sony...I always thought that funny. >>>=20 >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On=20 >>> Behalf Of Jim Curtis >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 4:19 PM >>> To: After Effects Mail List >>> Subject: [AE] What? Why? Ouch! >>>=20 >>> In this month's Digital Video magazine. Article titled "Brickyard=20= >>> Helps Animals Talk Business for Adobe" >>>=20 >>> "...color corrected the spot in Autodesk Lustre and composited ...=20= >>> using Autodesk Flame." >>>=20 >>> I repeat, what? >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Also, in the same issue, Editor C. Clapp waxes poetic on a artsy=20 >>> fartsy video, Called Projector Snow, by one "Brian Maffit." >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>=20 >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>=20 >>=20 >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >=20 > Cheers, > Chris > Mettle.com > Skype: Mettlecom >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to Cheers, Chris Mettle.com Skype: Mettlecom