Return-Path: Received: from cri.crishdesign.com ([198.57.142.178] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4996889 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 20:50:08 +0100 Received: from 106-72-agavebb-nm.abq.nm.agavebb.net ([199.21.106.72]:57349 helo=[192.168.0.7]) by cri.crishdesign.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UDgvw-0006kE-Jc for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:56:56 -0700 From: Chris Meyer Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_993C2766-A6E4-4E6F-9F4E-AB2E22F177C8" Subject: Re: [AE] Title/action safe Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:56:55 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cri.crishdesign.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - crishdesign.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cri.crishdesign.com: authenticated_id: chris@crishdesign.com --Apple-Mail=_993C2766-A6E4-4E6F-9F4E-AB2E22F177C8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 One, bezels still exist, even if the picture is no longer shrinking with = the size of the tube. And unfortunately, the amount of overscan that's = hidden behind the bezel has now been exposed on many sets as a user = preference, making you less sure of the user experience. So, better safe = than sorry. Two, there are still some holdout engineers who insist you follow The = Rules - and who will reject your material for not doing so - even though = the rules are outdated and no longer strictly apply. And to follow up on something Tony just posted, here's some real world = examples of what happens when people don't pay attention to center cut = areas (with some interaction with safe areas as well):=20 http://provideocoalition.com/cmg_keyframes/story/lets_be_safe_out_there - Chris ________________________________________________ Chris Meyer | Crish Design http://www.crishdesign.com On Mar 7, 2013, at 12:32 PM, scott.aelist wrote: > Can anyone explain why we still need title/action-safe? Is the bezel = on today's displays still so variable that this is necessary? I don't = understand why it's a requirement to stay within title safe on spots = while CNN can do a headline crawl that's bleeding off the screen... --Apple-Mail=_993C2766-A6E4-4E6F-9F4E-AB2E22F177C8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 One, = bezels still exist, even if the picture is no longer shrinking with the = size of the tube. And unfortunately, the amount of overscan that's = hidden behind the bezel has now been exposed on many sets as a user = preference, making you less sure of the user experience. So, better safe = than sorry.

Two, there are still some holdout = engineers who insist you follow The Rules - and who will reject your = material for not doing so - even though the rules are outdated and no = longer strictly apply.

And to follow up on = something Tony just posted, here's some real world examples of what = happens when people don't pay attention to center cut areas (with some = interaction with safe areas as well):

http://provideocoalition.com/cmg_keyframes/story/lets_be_safe_out_t= here

- = Chris

Can anyone = explain why we still need title/action-safe? Is the bezel on today's = displays still so variable that this is necessary? I don't understand = why it's a requirement to stay within title safe on spots while CNN can = do a headline crawl that's bleeding off the screen...

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