Return-Path: Received: from mail-ee0-f45.google.com ([74.125.83.45] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4996894 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 20:55:24 +0100 Received: by mail-ee0-f45.google.com with SMTP id b57so648496eek.18 for ; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:02:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IdD4TqPLUQc9w+Ilqz03/mo+hn/DHtqtU3PZjigvx10=; b=JzNM7MgpAgIsamZkTIarYU0vjnDPB2bCJXQ8ntFwJzif8Fu+QxaKWOm/3QldlfRlDd j/VMWSGfYm9z31/NhF2YkD5nNxvr06rq+4n7IYageoKuKgwCCL2HL3usrzWKJSchVYxI vh+cSRU27063b1Jssq8wZd8lJz72VABDAqg8Uz5sqxxb99fshDEmhXBpLR+wCLCmBPNm OBQEGYL0gPABdIxJyybYIdEVPZhNL9e00oFpPFEHXzR9IW/JgaUc5HR6k9mtHxhLccpt LomKiAf9mFSxBX2TnObkFWjYlo7wc53NWOjfhad2N49sZVTLv8ATb4cbMuuGlYn7FR1U rAuQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.5.137 with SMTP id s9mr57248829wjs.5.1362686534494; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:02:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.101.66 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:02:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:02:14 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Title/action safe From: D To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b5d3580d4307e04d75b2e19 --047d7b5d3580d4307e04d75b2e19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Wanted to say thanks again. Was on a tight deadline and the new place I'm freelancing works 16:9 with a 14:9 cage. Suddenly realised I didn't understand the full ramifications and didn't want to be seen looking the basics up on Google! I still managed to misinterpret the meaning from Chris's reply and embarrassed myself by asserting that 14:9 is about delivering a 4:3 safe picture in a 16:9 frame and that the default centre cut bars in AE are the 14:9 cage to use! Excruciatingly embarrassing to eventually be guided to the directory where the proper 14:9 .psd cages live. Even worse when I scrolled up and the cage was already in the comp but turned off. All in all, it was a bad day today. On Thursday, March 7, 2013, Chris Zwar wrote: > A quick Google search found a guide from the BBC - you want the diagram on > page 7: > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/guidelines/dq/pdf/tv/tv_delivery_to_network_programmes_SD_v1.0-2011.pdf > > FWIW 14x9 is specifically for delivering 16x9 content on a 4x3 monitor, so > your delivery will always be 4x3 SD. > > -Chris > > On 07/03/2013, at 10:21 PM, D > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Slightly embarrassing question for me as I've been using AE for many > years. Can someone please point me to a visual explanation of the 14:9 > title safe area? For years I was just used to 16:9 and 4:3 title and action > but I've never properly looked at what the two new bars of 14:9 mean in a > 16:9 comp. > > > > Thanks. > > > > *hides* > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > > > --047d7b5d3580d4307e04d75b2e19 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wanted to say thanks again. Was on=A0a tight deadline=A0and the new place I= 'm freelancing works 16:9 with a=A014:9 cage. Suddenly realised I didn&= #39;t understand the full ramifications and didn't want to be seen look= ing the basics up on Google! I still managed to misinterpret the meaning fr= om Chris's reply=A0and embarrassed myself by=A0asserting that 14:9 is a= bout delivering a 4:3 safe picture in a 16:9 frame and that=A0the default c= entre cut bars in AE are the 14:9 cage to use! Excruciatingly embarrassing = to eventually be guided to the directory where the proper 14:9 .psd=A0cages= live. Even worse when I scrolled up and the cage was already in the comp b= ut turned off.=A0

All in all, it was a bad day today.=A0=A0
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On Thursday, March 7, 2013, Chris Zwar wrote:
A quick Google search found a guide from the BBC - you want the diagram on = page 7:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/guidel= ines/dq/pdf/tv/tv_delivery_to_network_programmes_SD_v1.0-2011.pdf

FWIW 14x9 is specifically for delivering 16x9 content on a 4x3 monitor, so = your delivery will always be 4x3 SD.

-Chris

On 07/03/2013, at 10:21 PM, D <dow.hanson@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Slightly embarrassing question for me as I've been using AE for ma= ny years. Can someone please point me to a visual explanation of the 14:9 t= itle safe area? For years I was just used to 16:9 and 4:3 title and action = but I've never properly looked at what the two new bars of 14:9 mean in= a 16:9 comp.
>
> Thanks.
>
> *hides*


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