Return-Path: Received: from host23.canaca.com ([66.49.161.151] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4998630 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 20:06:16 +0100 Received: from 207-195-100-23.regn.static.sasknet.sk.ca ([207.195.100.23]:59672 helo=[192.168.1.37]) by host23.canaca.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UEPCd-0007cd-JN for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 14:13:08 -0500 From: Jack Tunnicliffe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_5432FD19-3B63-457B-9B33-FE58D62731F7" Message-Id: <33607845-22F3-4038-B581-767FB3D84941@javapost.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: [AE] spill suppression Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 13:13:07 -0600 References: To: "After Effects Mail List" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host23.canaca.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - javapost.ca X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: host23.canaca.com: authenticated_id: jack+javapost.ca/only user confirmed/virtual account not confirmed X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: --Apple-Mail=_5432FD19-3B63-457B-9B33-FE58D62731F7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Chris: Can you send me a frame. I'd be curious if I could focus in on the area = you're talking about. Maybe a screen grab with some arrows or pointers = showing me the area as well as a frame of the original, like a tiff. Jack Tunnicliffe Java Post Production 402, 2206 Dewdney ave. Regina, SK Canada S4R 1H3 P. 306-777-0150 cell. 306-536-4321 www.javapost.ca ______________ On Mar 9, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Chris Meyer wrote: > I have found the edge decontamination of Refine Matte very useful in = some situations, but not all. The two shots causing me grief this week = have 1) a large amount of spill across the bare shoulder/upper arm of an = actress, and 2) more than half way across the shirt on the back of an = actor who is turning. Unfortunately, when I increase the decontamination = range on Refine Matte, it does something very ugly to the color channel = information - what looks like a edge pixel repeat, instead of a simple = removing of color from otherwise detailed pixels that I wish to keep.=20 >=20 > - Chris >=20 > ________________________________________________ > Chris Meyer | Crish Design > http://www.crishdesign.com >=20 >=20 > On Mar 9, 2013, at 12:41 AM, Todd Kopriva wrote: >=20 >> Check out the Refine Matte effect for the motion blur color = decontamination. >>=20 >> On Friday, March 8, 2013, Chris Zwar wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> I don't know if it's technically 'spill', but motion blur is the = tricky thing to deal with when keying. If the key isn't set up well = then you can end up with footage that looks like it has a spill problem = in moving areas - actually the screen is showing through = semi-transparent regions. =20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> -------------------------------- >> Todd Kopriva >> 1510 E Alder St >> Seattle, WA 98122 >> (206)437-2296 >> -------------------------------- >> "Ultimately, all knowledge is self-knowledge." >> - Bruce Lee >=20 --Apple-Mail=_5432FD19-3B63-457B-9B33-FE58D62731F7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1

Jack = Tunnicliffe

402, 2206 = Dewdney ave.

Regina, SK

Canada

S4R 1H3

P. 306-777-0150

cell. = 306-536-4321

www.javapost.ca

On Mar 9, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Chris Meyer <chris@crishdesign.com> = wrote:

I have found the edge = decontamination of Refine Matte very useful in some situations, but not = all. The two shots causing me grief this week have 1) a large amount of = spill across the bare shoulder/upper arm of an actress, and 2) more than = half way across the shirt on the back of an actor who is turning. = Unfortunately, when I increase the decontamination range on Refine = Matte, it does something very ugly to the color channel information - = what looks like a edge pixel repeat, instead of a simple removing of = color from otherwise detailed pixels that I wish to = keep.

- Chris

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Chris Meyer | Crish Design
http://www.crishdesign.com

On Mar 9, 2013, at 12:41 AM, Todd Kopriva wrote:

Check out = the Refine Matte effect for the motion blur color = decontamination.

On Friday, March 8, 2013, Chris Zwar = wrote:

I don't know if it's technically 'spill', but motion blur is the tricky = thing to deal with when keying. If the key isn't set up well then = you can end up with footage that looks like it has a spill problem in = moving areas - actually the screen is showing through semi-transparent = regions.

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Todd = Kopriva
1510 E Alder St
Seattle, WA = 98122
(206)437-2296
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"Ultimately,= all knowledge is self-knowledge."
- Bruce Lee
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