Return-Path: Received: from mail-ia0-f177.google.com ([209.85.210.177] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4998657 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 20:41:37 +0100 Received: by mail-ia0-f177.google.com with SMTP id y25so2397651iay.8 for ; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 11:48:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; bh=v7ew0yyMAf8bGTEOmcdb5KapFLa+MVGvJ/o7+uAy+zo=; b=fpcxwzi6tL9/h5woTOatCmnqZJtVq3EAw/OqOd2XKIE+OHxMkhsf69euBsDbzPzWpR f6EMf06PRIzY+F/H8OML9vUY/TUumWQEC1IhrQoINofbyg4FpP+EzKMDYSmYKBezWdHU wzqylcHLuiJ82LKeA9BYHkZ8/ikho9Ax0jg0f5duKgaBn6h31ZR9ZyqJ1+XiAHtF8yTz gGTyTP1LyDqG5YhWiSGC58lvKXPXjKI2rLRhUyVYGzUnGfaK3lsu2KTKU+eeukwOHAoK Z3Q26li9jFFwMUnJD8p0gir7DWRxqmfSUi07/eE+zUBMxMvYSzrDjj+Xr7gN4+D4ySsJ 555Q== X-Received: by 10.50.57.225 with SMTP id l1mr3184758igq.71.1362858510681; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 11:48:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [100.123.225.218] (out-on-218.wireless.telus.com. [207.219.69.218]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ew5sm5484677igc.2.2013.03.09.11.48.28 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 09 Mar 2013 11:48:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [AE] spill suppression References: From: Andrew Embury Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-AF73FD82-AD65-43D1-8C50-97290E2EE9C8 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10A551) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <7FDE70E6-41A4-4061-96E9-C127E68B87DA@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 14:48:26 -0500 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) --Apple-Mail-AF73FD82-AD65-43D1-8C50-97290E2EE9C8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd love to have a crack at that too Chris! Cheers.=20 - Andrew On 2013-03-09, at 2:13 PM, Jack Tunnicliffe wrote: > Chris: >=20 > Can you send me a frame. I'd be curious if I could focus in on the area yo= u're talking about. Maybe a screen grab with some arrows or pointers showing= me the area as well as a frame of the original, like a tiff. >=20 > Jack Tunnicliffe > Java Post Production > 402, 2206 Dewdney ave. > Regina, SK > Canada > S4R 1H3 > P. 306-777-0150 > cell. 306-536-4321 > www.javapost.ca > ______________ >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mar 9, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Chris Meyer wrote: >=20 >> I have found the edge decontamination of Refine Matte very useful in some= situations, but not all. The two shots causing me grief this week have 1) a= large amount of spill across the bare shoulder/upper arm of an actress, and= 2) more than half way across the shirt on the back of an actor who is turni= ng. Unfortunately, when I increase the decontamination range on Refine Matte= , it does something very ugly to the color channel information - what looks l= ike a edge pixel repeat, instead of a simple removing of color from otherwis= e detailed pixels that I wish to keep.=20 >>=20 >> - Chris >>=20 >> ________________________________________________ >> Chris Meyer | Crish Design >> http://www.crishdesign.com >>=20 >>=20 >> On Mar 9, 2013, at 12:41 AM, Todd Kopriva wrote: >>=20 >>> Check out the Refine Matte effect for the motion blur color decontaminat= ion. >>>=20 >>> On Friday, March 8, 2013, Chris Zwar wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> I don't know if it's technically 'spill', but motion blur is the tricky= thing to deal with when keying. If the key isn't set up well then you can e= nd up with footage that looks like it has a spill problem in moving areas - a= ctually the screen is showing through semi-transparent regions. =20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> -------------------------------- >>> Todd Kopriva >>> 1510 E Alder St >>> Seattle, WA 98122 >>> (206)437-2296 >>> -------------------------------- >>> "Ultimately, all knowledge is self-knowledge." >>> - Bruce Lee >=20 --Apple-Mail-AF73FD82-AD65-43D1-8C50-97290E2EE9C8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'd love to have a crack at that too C= hris!

Cheers. 

- Andrew

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On 2013-03-09, at 2:13 PM, Jack Tunnicliffe <jack@javapost.ca> wrote:

Chris:

Can you send me a frame. I'= d be curious if I could focus in on the area you're talking about. Maybe a s= creen grab with some arrows or pointers showing me the area as well as a fra= me of the original, like a tiff.

Jack TunnicliffeJava Post Production

40= 2, 2206 Dewdney ave.

Regina, SK

Canada

S4R 1H3

P. 306-777-0150

cell. 306-536-= 4321

www.javapost.ca

______________




On Mar 9, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Chris Meyer <chris@crishdesign.com> wrote:

I have found the edge decontamination of Refine Matte very useful in s= ome situations, but not all. The two shots causing me grief this week have 1= ) a large amount of spill across the bare shoulder/upper arm of an actress, a= nd 2) more than half way across the shirt on the back of an actor who is tur= ning. Unfortunately, when I increase the decontamination range on Refine Mat= te, it does something very ugly to the color channel information - what look= s like a edge pixel repeat, instead of a simple removing of color from other= wise detailed pixels that I wish to keep. 

 - C= hris

______________= __________________________________
Chris Meyer | Crish Design
http://www.crishdesign.com

On Mar 9, 2013, at 12:41 AM, Todd Kopriva wrote:

Check out the = ;Refine Matte effect for the motion blur color decontamination.

On Fri= day, March 8, 2013, Chris Zwar wrote:


I don't know if it's technically 'spill', but motion blur is the tricky thin= g to deal with when keying.  If the key isn't set up well then you can e= nd up with footage that looks like it has a spill problem in moving areas - a= ctually the screen is showing through semi-transparent regions.  


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