Return-Path: Received: from mail-qc0-f178.google.com ([209.85.216.178] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4998717 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 23:48:39 +0100 Received: by mail-qc0-f178.google.com with SMTP id j34so1040654qco.9 for ; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 14:55:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BYt11zunWhNua1u268j6W/1pwp9GvgxPxdmfy0CsrrI=; b=veW9pV8ZUUpXHq2+eBeG/CzFm69c/bJO6j5iELDYlpxbUgu8sc0INMGKVTHn8wAD8R n2efwl+B9H8XuoA5oncYS4sxZKCA7Fs/s866cQ7D7iaEELpc/zJD/ySet+Vry4ELGejO 2SyxajkIbUA9Lsg0VqCRy1JJypG292pTTlhXvJUtTD1JY2R0tAtmR6aBTFzR2LVHmK0g AR/fK7SHzbHeQ5pueM8DrbtTAxhz3A53H9yJ9vPheHhMhXYyhIPKDMFF6l1oGF4kp9oT ZwDrWoQW480XvTtL7RzShu1CYPleCpLoExbRhnpbfb2kh5mSzbkU8RF/V65icEJHxqrp 87zQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.96.72 with SMTP id g8mr10538130qan.60.1362869732351; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 14:55:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.129.162 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 14:55:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 17:55:32 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] spill suppression From: Daniel Griffin To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071d12445ab9e04d785d6c1 --20cf3071d12445ab9e04d785d6c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've found the Green Limited by the Average of Red and Blue technique very useful and has given me the best spill suppression results so far: http://ae.tutsplus.com/tutorials/workflow/advanced-spill-suppression-methods/ Daniel Griffin www.kubikafilms.com 2013/3/9 Chris Meyer > Many thanks, and absolutely nothing personal, but I have a client > confidentiality issue on these particular shots that I don't want to tread > anywhere near. > > - Chris > > ________________________________________________ > Chris Meyer | Crish Design > http://www.crishdesign.com > > > On Mar 9, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Andrew Embury wrote: > > I'd love to have a crack at that too Chris! > > Cheers. > > - Andrew > > > On 2013-03-09, at 2:13 PM, Jack Tunnicliffe wrote: > > Chris: > > Can you send me a frame. I'd be curious if I could focus in on the area > you're talking about. Maybe a screen grab with some arrows or pointers > showing me the area as well as a frame of the original, like a tiff. > > Jack Tunnicliffe > Java Post Production > 402, 2206 Dewdney ave. > Regina, SK > Canada > S4R 1H3 > P. 306-777-0150 > cell. 306-536-4321 > www.javapost.ca > ______________ > > > > On Mar 9, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Chris Meyer wrote: > > I have found the edge decontamination of Refine Matte very useful in some > situations, but not all. The two shots causing me grief this week have 1) a > large amount of spill across the bare shoulder/upper arm of an actress, and > 2) more than half way across the shirt on the back of an actor who is > turning. Unfortunately, when I increase the decontamination range on Refine > Matte, it does something very ugly to the color channel information - what > looks like a edge pixel repeat, instead of a simple removing of color from > otherwise detailed pixels that I wish to keep. > > - Chris > > ________________________________________________ > Chris Meyer | Crish Design > http://www.crishdesign.com > > > On Mar 9, 2013, at 12:41 AM, Todd Kopriva wrote: > > Check out the Refine Matte effect for the motion blur color > decontamination. > > On Friday, March 8, 2013, Chris Zwar wrote: >> >> >> >> I don't know if it's technically 'spill', but motion blur is the tricky >> thing to deal with when keying. If the key isn't set up well then you can >> end up with footage that looks like it has a spill problem in moving areas >> - actually the screen is showing through semi-transparent regions. >> > > > -- > -------------------------------- > Todd Kopriva > 1510 E Alder St > Seattle, WA 98122 > (206)437-2296 > -------------------------------- > "Ultimately, all knowledge is self-knowledge." > - Bruce Lee > > > > > --20cf3071d12445ab9e04d785d6c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've found the Green Limited by the Average of Red and= Blue=A0technique=A0very useful and has given me the best spill=A0suppressi= on=A0results so far:



Daniel Griffin
www.kubikafilms.com


2013/3/9 Chris Meyer &= lt;chris@crishde= sign.com>
Many thanks, and absolutely nothing per= sonal, but I have a client confidentiality issue on these particular shots = that I don't want to tread anywhere near.

=A0- Chris

________________________________________________
Chris Meyer | Crish Des= ign
http://www.= crishdesign.com

On Mar 9, 2013, at 12:48 PM, And= rew Embury wrote:

I'd love to have a crack at that too Chris!

C= heers.=A0

- Andrew


On 2013-03-09, at 2:13 PM, Jack T= unnicliffe <jack@j= avapost.ca> wrote:

Chris= :

Can you send me a frame. I'd be curious if I could focus= in on the area you're talking about. Maybe a screen grab with some arr= ows or pointers showing me the area as well as a frame of the original, lik= e a tiff.

Jack Tunnicliffe
Java Post Production=
402, 2206 Dewdney ave.
Regina, SK
Canada
S4R 1H3
P. 306-777-0150
cell. 306-536-4321
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On Mar 9, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Chris Meyer <chris@crishdesign.com> wr= ote:

I have found the edge decontamination of Refine Matte very useful in some = situations, but not all. The two shots causing me grief this week have 1) a= large amount of spill across the bare shoulder/upper arm of an actress, an= d 2) more than half way across the shirt on the back of an actor who is tur= ning. Unfortunately, when I increase the decontamination range on Refine Ma= tte, it does something very ugly to the color channel information - what lo= oks like a edge pixel repeat, instead of a simple removing of color from ot= herwise detailed pixels that I wish to keep.=A0

=A0- Chris

________________________________________________
Chris Meyer | Crish Des= ign
http://www= .crishdesign.com

On Mar 9, 2013, at 12:41 AM, Todd Kopriva wrote:

Check out the=A0Refine Matte effect for the motion b= lur color decontamination.

On Friday, March 8, 2013, Chris Zwar wro= te:


I don't know if it's technically 'spill', but motion blur i= s the tricky thing to deal with when keying. =A0If the key isn't set up= well then you can end up with footage that looks like it has a spill probl= em in moving areas - actually the screen is showing through semi-transparen= t regions. =A0


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Todd Kopriv= a
1510 E Alder St
Seattle, WA 98122
(206)437-2296
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"Ultimately, all knowledge is self-knowledge.&q= uot;
=A0=A0 - Bruce Lee



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