Return-Path: Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com ([17.158.236.236] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5007920 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:09:53 +0100 Received: from 66.49.40.101.nw.nuvox.net (66.49.40.101.nw.nuvox.net [66.49.40.101]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MJW0076NVO8ZE00@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:17:05 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-03-19_05:2013-03-19,2013-03-19,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1302030000 definitions=main-1303190094 From: Benny Christensen MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_D4D61D6C-6205-49F2-8D66-F96E208E357E" Subject: Re: [AE] Windows to ProRes Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:16:55 -0500 In-reply-to: To: After Effects Mail List References: Message-id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) --Apple-Mail=_D4D61D6C-6205-49F2-8D66-F96E208E357E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I understand that they are both still on the PC, but if you render to a = Mac codec or vice versa (PC) the files will have a different gamma = range. There is more at ProVideo Coalition = http://provideocoalition.com/search_results?cx=3D012795032280509056357%3Al= khploagxhk&ie=3DUTF-8&cof=3DFORID%3A10&q=3Dpc+mac+gamma&sa=3DSearch Good Luck. Benny Christensen Producers Playhouse Oklahoma City 405-858-0700 "Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick = themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened." - Sir Winston = Churchill On Mar 19, 2013, at 8:56 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: > Benny, > =20 > Thanks. When I say, I see a slight color change, I'm actually placing = the output file directly on top of the base file (in my editor). So, if = I adjust opacity, I see a color change. In other words they are both on = PC in same environment. But, truth is, it's minimal and the editor = could just as easily knock it back down - however, it would take that = darn 600GB file. > =20 > One plugin I've not yet tried but will, is this = http://www.dubon.fr/conversion-prores422/ that I saw way down below. Of = all of them, this might be the most likely since it appears integrated = in to after effects and I can try pushing that 600GB file through. > =20 > I've never rendered anything from AE that was over an hour though. > =20 > Does anyone have comments on how well this plugin works? I didn't = really see any comments from someone who has used it. > =20 > Thanks ahead folks. >=20 > Eric >=20 > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Benny Christensen = wrote: > I think that what you are seeing is the Gamma difference between PC = and Mac, but I am not a PC guy so it would be hard for me to say. >=20 > Benny Christensen > Producers Playhouse > Oklahoma City > 405-858-0700 >=20 > "One of the few good things about modern times: If you die horribly on = television, you will not have died in vain. You will have entertained = us." - Kurt Vonnegut (Cold Turkey) >=20 > On Mar 18, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: >=20 >> I'm using a PC. What I am trying to do is do my work, convert back = to ProRes to send back to the editor guy who uses a Mac. I received a = ProRes 422(LT) file on a Mac Drive. When I use that Cinec coder, it = works but then I place it directly above my original on same editor = timeline, adjust opacity and I see the subtle difference. =20 >>=20 >> I suppose he could kick it back down a shade but ideally, would like = it right. I know if I render out in avi, it is perfect. >>=20 >> Eric >>=20 >> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Benny Christensen = wrote: >> Did you get the Mac version of the Pavtube HD video converter? >>=20 >> If so look under Settings in the Format and look forFinal Cut Pro in = the left hand column. Select it and the ProRes options appear on the = right. >>=20 >> You can also customize the output to the same directory or another = directory. >>=20 >> Benny Christensen >> Producers Playhouse >> Oklahoma City >> 405-858-0700 >>=20 >> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no = loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Mar 18, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: >>=20 >>> I just downloaded it and appears it does not have the ProRes = converter. Guess I misread - thought that was they key feature! :) The = other one does work, I just notice a slightly brighter image when I = place it on top of the original ProRes 422 (LT) file. >>>=20 >>> Darn. >>> Eric >>>=20 >>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Benny Christensen = wrote: >>> I'm not sure about color or luminance shifts because without the = converter I couldn't see the original in anything other than VLC and = that didn't play in anywhere near real time. >>>=20 >>> What I like is that it converts from the AVI directly to ProRes. = Most of the converters I tried would convert to h264,but not to ProRes. = I'm not sure if the windows version has the ProRes Codec since that = doesn't seem to be readily available on Windows. I work a Mac so I have = the Mac version. >>>=20 >>> They have a free trial version so you should try it and see if it = works for you. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Benny Christensen >>> Producers Playhouse >>> Oklahoma City >>> 405-858-0700 >>>=20 >>> "Well, the telling of jokes is an art of its own, and it always = rises from some emotional threat. The best jokes are dangerous, and = dangerous because they are in some way truthful."- Kurt Vonnegut (Cold = Turkey) >>>=20 >>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Hello -=20 >>>>=20 >>>> I've been trying the Cinec converter from the other gentleman and I = notice the final product is a touch brighter. Anyone else notice this? = How well does this Pavtube one work? Is it a Windows to ProRes = converter? It says converter for Mac. I really need precision on the = coloring. >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks, >>>> Eric >>>>=20 >>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Benny Christensen = wrote: >>>> Along this line I have a client who has been bringing me AVI's from = AECS6 that I need to work with on my Mac. It took me weeks to find a = converter so I am sharing it. >>>>=20 >>>> Check out Pavtube HD Converter for Mac. $35 to convert directly to = ProRes. >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks. >>>>=20 >>>> Benny Christensen >>>> Producers Playhouse >>>> Oklahoma City >>>> 405-858-0700 >>>>=20 >>>> "I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. = Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the = center." - Kurt Vonnegut=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Jim Curtis wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> This comes up occasionally, so I thought I'd repost it here (from = the Adobe Pr forum): >>>>>=20 >>>>> http://www.dubon.fr/conversion-prores422/ >>>>>=20 >>>>> Free plug-in. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> --=20 >>>> Kirk Productions, Inc >>>> www.kirkproductions.com >>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>> =20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> Kirk Productions, Inc >>> www.kirkproductions.com >>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>> =20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> Kirk Productions, Inc >> www.kirkproductions.com >> kirkproductions@gmail.com >> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >> =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Kirk Productions, Inc > www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com > IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ > =20 --Apple-Mail=_D4D61D6C-6205-49F2-8D66-F96E208E357E Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 I understand that they are both still on the PC, but if you render to a Mac codec or vice versa (PC) the files will have a different gamma range.

There is more at ProVideo Coalition


Good Luck.

Benny Christensen
Producers Playhouse
Oklahoma City
405-858-0700

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened." - Sir Winston Churchill





On Mar 19, 2013, at 8:56 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:

Benny,
 
Thanks.  When I say, I see a slight color change, I'm actually placing the output file directly on top of the base file (in my editor).  So, if I adjust opacity, I see a color change.  In other words they are both on PC in same environment.  But, truth is, it's minimal and the editor could just as easily knock it back down - however, it would take that darn 600GB file.
 
One plugin I've not yet tried but will, is this http://www.dubon.fr/conversion-prores422/ that I saw way down below.  Of all of them, this might be the most likely since it appears integrated in to after effects and I can try pushing that 600GB file through.
 
I've never rendered anything from AE that was over an hour though.
 
Does anyone have comments on how well this plugin works?  I didn't really see any comments from someone who has used it.
 
Thanks ahead folks.

Eric

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Benny Christensen <bennychristensen@me.com> wrote:
I think that what you are seeing is the Gamma difference between PC and Mac, but I am not a PC guy so it would be hard for me to say.

Benny Christensen
Producers Playhouse
Oklahoma City

"One of the few good things about modern times: If you die horribly on television, you will not have died in vain. You will have entertained us." - Kurt Vonnegut (Cold Turkey)

On Mar 18, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:

I'm using a PC.  What I am trying to do is do my work, convert back to ProRes to send back to the editor guy who uses a Mac.  I received a ProRes 422(LT) file on a Mac Drive.  When I use that Cinec coder, it works but then I place it directly above my original on same editor timeline, adjust opacity and I see the subtle difference.  

I suppose he could kick it back down a shade but ideally, would like it right.  I know if I render out in avi, it is perfect.

Eric

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Benny Christensen <bennychristensen@me.com> wrote:
Did you get the Mac version of the Pavtube HD video converter?

If so look under Settings in the Format and look forFinal Cut Pro in the left hand column. Select it and the ProRes options appear on the right.

You can also customize the output to the same directory or another directory.

Benny Christensen
Producers Playhouse
Oklahoma City

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill




On Mar 18, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:

I just downloaded it and appears it does not have the ProRes converter.  Guess I misread - thought that was they key feature! :)  The other one does work, I just notice a slightly brighter image when I place it on top of the original ProRes 422 (LT) file.

Darn.
Eric

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Benny Christensen <bennychristensen@me.com> wrote:
I'm not sure about color or luminance shifts because without the converter I couldn't see the original in anything other than VLC and that didn't play in anywhere near real time.

What I like is that it converts from the AVI directly to ProRes. Most of the converters I tried would convert to h264,but not to ProRes.  I'm not sure if the windows version has the ProRes Codec since that doesn't seem to be readily available on Windows. I work a Mac so I have the Mac version.

They have a free trial version so you should try it and see if it works for you.


Benny Christensen
Producers Playhouse
Oklahoma City

"Well, the telling of jokes is an art of its own, and it always rises from some emotional threat. The best jokes are dangerous, and dangerous because they are in some way truthful."- Kurt Vonnegut (Cold Turkey)

On Mar 18, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:

Hello - 

I've been trying the Cinec converter from the other gentleman and I notice the final product is a touch brighter.  Anyone else notice this?  How well does this Pavtube one work?  Is it a Windows to ProRes converter?  It says converter for Mac.  I really need precision on the coloring.

Thanks,
Eric

On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Benny Christensen <bennychristensen@me.com> wrote:
Along this line I have a client who has been bringing me AVI's from AECS6 that I need to work with on my Mac. It took me weeks to find a converter so I am sharing it.

Check out Pavtube HD Converter for Mac. $35 to convert directly to ProRes.

Thanks.

Benny Christensen
Producers Playhouse
Oklahoma City

"I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center." - Kurt Vonnegut 




On Mar 8, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Jim Curtis wrote:

This comes up occasionally, so I thought I'd repost it here (from the Adobe Pr forum):


Free plug-in.




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