Return-Path: Received: from mail-vb0-f44.google.com ([209.85.212.44] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5008022 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:26:22 +0100 Received: by mail-vb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id fr13so400401vbb.17 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:33:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=EsVG4/lXo0MBQWuYw+fuvIbl9QRL1H2xulPcG2CTmcA=; b=Mhl76UBuLCMPTFCIb5aSpeA/SgUxZgASZWSWbiGpSq5DIJqAmLWkCKBP+c/RuwFXKz rfAV6OIkI6AjSrhLHLrkyInh/sw8Q8evXCvK8W5qgbZBRegWLCp0E5jXcuRsb/sD03E3 pjMGnvrqCkgWpUxiGJQZgc08fFO0pdU828pwW9Pqk1X6TAk0cSK3S+GhjFFY/34ecGmt 9ZKNAZGjfXgrQqs/q89SBoNoTQxanSQJ3XObIlVy9+B/J/H/0CDEN9rHUhL8naAYSUOh fRMTd8+GXc7n4CqHtiX12YSE2zi9gweol6yF6Z9FLzBO9sXadrq7jBHzu/pVUfL9Jzh0 fgtg== X-Received: by 10.52.24.133 with SMTP id u5mr2591277vdf.49.1363707213321; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:33:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.241.161 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:33:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Robert Kjettrup Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:33:13 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Windows to ProRes To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f3aa4072d4204d848d454 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnd1K+uyNLQsPDUb/EuglwxztmQwKxVVx+mpxKiOyNsJ1AwNSEkIIBAYnuyLAl2UEuUC4w1 --20cf307f3aa4072d4204d848d454 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Eric What kind of file did you send to the Cinec program? I have found that ffmpeg (the backend that Cinec uses, as far as i know) has a different way to read YUV formats than Adobe apps, and when converting to a Prores i find it more reliable to send a RGB encoded file (eg. Quicktime None) to get around the way ffmpeg reads an 4:2:2 YUV file (eg. QT DNxHD or QT uncomressed YUV 10bit) Try this and see if you get better results. - Robert 2013/3/19 Mr. Eric D. Kirk > Benny, > > Thanks. When I say, I see a slight color change, I'm actually placing the > output file directly on top of the base file (in my editor). So, if I > adjust opacity, I see a color change. In other words they are both on PC > in same environment. But, truth is, it's minimal and the editor could just > as easily knock it back down - however, it would take that darn 600GB file. > > One plugin I've not yet tried but will, is this > http://www.dubon.fr/conversion-prores422/ that I saw way down below. Of > all of them, this might be the most likely since it appears integrated in > to after effects and I can try pushing that 600GB file through. > > I've never rendered anything from AE that was over an hour though. > > Does anyone have comments on how well this plugin works? I didn't really > see any comments from someone who has used it. > > Thanks ahead folks. > > Eric > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Benny Christensen < > bennychristensen@me.com> wrote: > >> I think that what you are seeing is the Gamma difference between PC and >> Mac, but I am not a PC guy so it would be hard for me to say. >> >> Benny Christensen >> Producers Playhouse >> Oklahoma City >> 405-858-0700 >> >> "One of the few good things about modern times: If you die horribly on >> television, you will not have died in vain. You will have entertained >> us." - Kurt Vonnegut (Cold Turkey) >> >> On Mar 18, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: >> >> I'm using a PC. What I am trying to do is do my work, convert back to >> ProRes to send back to the editor guy who uses a Mac. I received a ProRes >> 422(LT) file on a Mac Drive. When I use that Cinec coder, it works but >> then I place it directly above my original on same editor timeline, adjust >> opacity and I see the subtle difference. >> >> I suppose he could kick it back down a shade but ideally, would like it >> right. I know if I render out in avi, it is perfect. >> >> Eric >> >> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Benny Christensen < >> bennychristensen@me.com> wrote: >> >>> Did you get the Mac version of the Pavtube HD video converter? >>> >>> If so look under Settings in the Format and look forFinal Cut Pro in the >>> left hand column. Select it and the ProRes options appear on the right. >>> >>> You can also customize the output to the same directory or another >>> directory. >>> >>> Benny Christensen >>> Producers Playhouse >>> Oklahoma City >>> 405-858-0700 >>> >>> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss >>> of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: >>> >>> I just downloaded it and appears it does not have the ProRes converter. >>> Guess I misread - thought that was they key feature! :) The other one >>> does work, I just notice a slightly brighter image when I place it on top >>> of the original ProRes 422 (LT) file. >>> >>> Darn. >>> Eric >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Benny Christensen < >>> bennychristensen@me.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm not sure about color or luminance shifts because without the >>>> converter I couldn't see the original in anything other than VLC and that >>>> didn't play in anywhere near real time. >>>> >>>> What I like is that it converts from the AVI directly to ProRes. Most >>>> of the converters I tried would convert to h264,but not to ProRes. I'm not >>>> sure if the windows version has the ProRes Codec since that doesn't seem to >>>> be readily available on Windows. I work a Mac so I have the Mac version. >>>> >>>> They have a free trial version so you should try it and see if it works >>>> for you. >>>> >>>> >>>> Benny Christensen >>>> Producers Playhouse >>>> Oklahoma City >>>> 405-858-0700 >>>> >>>> "Well, the telling of jokes is an art of its own, and it always rises >>>> from some emotional threat. The best jokes are dangerous, and dangerous >>>> because they are in some way truthful."- Kurt Vonnegut (Cold Turkey) >>>> >>>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello - >>>> >>>> I've been trying the Cinec converter from the other gentleman and I >>>> notice the final product is a touch brighter. Anyone else notice this? >>>> How well does this Pavtube one work? Is it a Windows to ProRes converter? >>>> It says converter for Mac. I really need precision on the coloring. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Eric >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Benny Christensen < >>>> bennychristensen@me.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Along this line I have a client who has been bringing me AVI's from >>>>> AECS6 that I need to work with on my Mac. It took me weeks to find a >>>>> converter so I am sharing it. >>>>> >>>>> Check out Pavtube HD Converter for Mac. $35 to convert directly to >>>>> ProRes. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Benny Christensen >>>>> Producers Playhouse >>>>> Oklahoma City >>>>> 405-858-0700 >>>>> >>>>> "I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out >>>>> on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center." - >>>>> Kurt Vonnegut >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Jim Curtis wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This comes up occasionally, so I thought I'd repost it here (from the >>>>> Adobe Pr forum): >>>>> >>>>> http://www.dubon.fr/conversion-prores422/ >>>>> >>>>> Free plug-in. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Kirk Productions, Inc >>>> www.kirkproductions.com >>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Kirk Productions, Inc >>> www.kirkproductions.com >>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Kirk Productions, Inc >> www.kirkproductions.com >> kirkproductions@gmail.com >> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Kirk Productions, Inc > www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com > IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ > > --20cf307f3aa4072d4204d848d454 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Eric

What kind of = file did you send to the Cinec program?=A0
I have found that ffmp= eg (the backend that Cinec uses, as far as i know) has a different way to r= ead YUV formats than Adobe apps, and when converting to a Prores i find it = more reliable to send a RGB encoded file (eg. Quicktime None) to get around= the way ffmpeg reads an 4:2:2 YUV file (eg. QT DNxHD or QT uncomressed YUV= 10bit)

Try t= his and see if you get better results.

- Robert


2013/3/19 Mr. Eric D. Kirk <kir= kproductions@gmail.com>
Benny,
=A0
Thanks.=A0 When I say, I see a slight c= olor change, I'm actually placing the output file directly on top of th= e base file (in my editor).=A0 So, if I adjust opacity, I see a color chang= e.=A0 In other words they are both on PC in same environment.=A0 But, truth= is, it's minimal and the editor could just as easily knock it back dow= n - however, it would take that darn 600GB file.
=A0
One plugin I've not yet tried but will, is this http://= www.dubon.fr/conversion-prores422/=A0that I saw way down below.=A0 Of a= ll of them, this might be the most likely since it appears integrated in to= after effects and I can try pushing that 600GB file through.
=A0
I've never rendered anything from AE that was over a= n hour though.
=A0
Does anyone have comments on how wel= l this plugin works?=A0 I didn't really see any comments from someone w= ho has used it.
=A0
Thanks ahead folks.

Eric

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Benny Christensen <= span dir=3D"ltr"><bennychristensen@me.com> wrote:
I think that what you = are seeing is the Gamma difference between PC and Mac, but I am not a PC gu= y so it would be hard for me to say.
=

Benny C= hristensen
Producers Playhouse
Oklahoma City

"One of the few good things about mode= rn times: If you die horribly on television, you will not have died in vain= . You will have entertained us."=A0- Kurt Vonnegut=A0(Cold Turkey)

On Mar 18, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:
I'm using a PC. =A0What I am trying to do is= do my work, convert back to ProRes to send back to the editor guy who uses= a Mac. =A0I received a ProRes 422(LT) file on a Mac Drive. =A0When I use t= hat Cinec coder, it works but then I place it directly above my original on= same editor timeline, adjust opacity and I see the subtle difference. =A0<= div>
I suppose he could kick it back down a shade but ideally, wo= uld like it right. =A0I know if I render out in avi, it is perfect.

Eric

On Mon, Mar 18, 20= 13 at 6:14 PM, Benny Christensen <bennychristensen@me.com> wrote:
Did you get the Mac ve= rsion of the Pavtube HD video converter?

If so look under Settings in the Format and look forFinal Cu= t Pro in the left hand column. Select it and the ProRes options appear on t= he right.

You can also customize the output to the same directory= or another directory.

Benny Christensen
P= roducers Playhouse
Oklahoma City
=

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to = another with no loss of enthusiasm."=A0- Sir Winston Churchill

=


On Mar 18, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:
I just downloaded it and appears it does not hav= e the ProRes converter. =A0Guess I misread - thought that was they key feat= ure! :) =A0The other one does work, I just notice a slightly brighter image= when I place it on top of the original ProRes 422 (LT) file.

Darn.
Eric

On Mo= n, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Benny Christensen <bennychristensen@me.c= om> wrote:
I'm not sure about= color or luminance shifts because without the converter I couldn't see= the original in anything other than VLC and that didn't play in anywhe= re near real time.

What I like is that it converts from the AVI directly to Pro= Res. Most of the converters I tried would convert to h264,but not to ProRes= . =A0I'm not sure if the windows version has the ProRes Codec since tha= t doesn't seem to be readily available on Windows.=A0I work a Mac so I = have the Mac version.

They have a free trial version so you should try it and= see if it works for you.

<= /div>

Benny Christensen
Producers Playho= use
Oklahoma City

"Well, the telling of jokes is an art of its= own, and it always rises from some emotional threat. The best jokes are da= ngerous, and dangerous because they are in some way truthful."- Kurt V= onnegut=A0(Cold Turkey)

On Mar 18, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:
Hello -=A0

I've been tryi= ng the Cinec converter from the other gentleman and I notice the final prod= uct is a touch brighter. =A0Anyone else notice this? =A0How well does this = Pavtube one work? =A0Is it a Windows to ProRes converter? =A0It says conver= ter for Mac. =A0I really need precision on the coloring.

Thanks,
Eric

On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Benny Christensen <<= a href=3D"mailto:bennychristensen@me.com" target=3D"_blank">bennychristense= n@me.com> wrote:
Along this line I have= a client who has been bringing me AVI's from AECS6 that I need to work= with on my Mac. It took me weeks to find a converter so I am sharing it.
Check out Pavtube HD Converter for Mac. $35 to convert direc= tly to ProRes.

Thanks.

Benny= Christensen
Producers Playhouse
Oklahoma City

=
"I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going= over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from t= he center."=A0- Kurt Vonnegut=A0



On Mar 8, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Jim Curtis wrote:

This comes up occas= ionally, so I thought I'd repost it here (from the Adobe Pr forum):

Free plug-in.




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