Return-Path: Received: from mail-ia0-f172.google.com ([209.85.210.172] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5008028 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:40:13 +0100 Received: by mail-ia0-f172.google.com with SMTP id l29so530387iag.17 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:47:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=fewH4IEm13aBdR5QUCpkQoS9t0MXH3yryqcBRBgKz14=; b=MBxdhJkkAYiyzTOZtofm4o+GLD84FUskDuCElg1P+CmvPJqcqPvEXrxoYSWiVpdgYY k0/uTYnphI/09e1ax0z3K/ryrc8AQ/HguVSw9VocjnbQLsq1TaNxIP6tM+Kj1PtJMM2N kJ5a03FD1yghsetdU4T9NeA/7ziODLobNPCSvLB5EovJhhKF7AE5tdsHNfk6xRBTjrS6 IQm7mfV8+aMmUrckFoG+e7xsxln897wulnVcZzLgTxD5qYDSFZalZs+wpBEX6dRT1XsI cCHCeCI/2ZS4BIb3RpgZA4+B0+HJVRTngCHNF6NPEWCWt2qfVKbvvK8PpuRgWwpDSBII ihGg== X-Received: by 10.50.212.3 with SMTP id ng3mr1744326igc.43.1363708044831; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:47:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.7.41 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:47:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:47:04 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Windows to ProRes To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93409f796f55f04d8490527 --14dae93409f796f55f04d8490527 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Robert, No we're talking. Your comment sounds like it might get to my issue. I sent a Uncompressed AVI YUV to the Cinec program as a test and got those mixed results. So, Quicktime None? Never heard of None. Is that correct? Can you clarify the QT CODEC? Thanks, Eric On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Robert Kjettrup wrote: > Hi Eric > > What kind of file did you send to the Cinec program? > I have found that ffmpeg (the backend that Cinec uses, as far as i know) > has a different way to read YUV formats than Adobe apps, and when > converting to a Prores i find it more reliable to send a RGB encoded file > (eg. Quicktime None) to get around the way ffmpeg reads an 4:2:2 YUV file > (eg. QT DNxHD or QT uncomressed YUV 10bit) > > Try this and see if you get better results. > > - Robert > > > 2013/3/19 Mr. Eric D. Kirk > >> Benny, >> >> Thanks. When I say, I see a slight color change, I'm actually placing >> the output file directly on top of the base file (in my editor). So, if I >> adjust opacity, I see a color change. In other words they are both on PC >> in same environment. But, truth is, it's minimal and the editor could just >> as easily knock it back down - however, it would take that darn 600GB file. >> >> One plugin I've not yet tried but will, is this >> http://www.dubon.fr/conversion-prores422/ that I saw way down below. Of >> all of them, this might be the most likely since it appears integrated in >> to after effects and I can try pushing that 600GB file through. >> >> I've never rendered anything from AE that was over an hour though. >> >> Does anyone have comments on how well this plugin works? I didn't really >> see any comments from someone who has used it. >> >> Thanks ahead folks. >> >> Eric >> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Benny Christensen < >> bennychristensen@me.com> wrote: >> >>> I think that what you are seeing is the Gamma difference between PC and >>> Mac, but I am not a PC guy so it would be hard for me to say. >>> >>> Benny Christensen >>> Producers Playhouse >>> Oklahoma City >>> 405-858-0700 >>> >>> "One of the few good things about modern times: If you die horribly on >>> television, you will not have died in vain. You will have entertained >>> us." - Kurt Vonnegut (Cold Turkey) >>> >>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: >>> >>> I'm using a PC. What I am trying to do is do my work, convert back to >>> ProRes to send back to the editor guy who uses a Mac. I received a ProRes >>> 422(LT) file on a Mac Drive. When I use that Cinec coder, it works but >>> then I place it directly above my original on same editor timeline, adjust >>> opacity and I see the subtle difference. >>> >>> I suppose he could kick it back down a shade but ideally, would like it >>> right. I know if I render out in avi, it is perfect. >>> >>> Eric >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Benny Christensen < >>> bennychristensen@me.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Did you get the Mac version of the Pavtube HD video converter? >>>> >>>> If so look under Settings in the Format and look forFinal Cut Pro in >>>> the left hand column. Select it and the ProRes options appear on the right. >>>> >>>> You can also customize the output to the same directory or another >>>> directory. >>>> >>>> Benny Christensen >>>> Producers Playhouse >>>> Oklahoma City >>>> 405-858-0700 >>>> >>>> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss >>>> of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: >>>> >>>> I just downloaded it and appears it does not have the ProRes converter. >>>> Guess I misread - thought that was they key feature! :) The other one >>>> does work, I just notice a slightly brighter image when I place it on top >>>> of the original ProRes 422 (LT) file. >>>> >>>> Darn. >>>> Eric >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Benny Christensen < >>>> bennychristensen@me.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm not sure about color or luminance shifts because without the >>>>> converter I couldn't see the original in anything other than VLC and that >>>>> didn't play in anywhere near real time. >>>>> >>>>> What I like is that it converts from the AVI directly to ProRes. Most >>>>> of the converters I tried would convert to h264,but not to ProRes. I'm not >>>>> sure if the windows version has the ProRes Codec since that doesn't seem to >>>>> be readily available on Windows. I work a Mac so I have the Mac version. >>>>> >>>>> They have a free trial version so you should try it and see if it >>>>> works for you. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Benny Christensen >>>>> Producers Playhouse >>>>> Oklahoma City >>>>> 405-858-0700 >>>>> >>>>> "Well, the telling of jokes is an art of its own, and it always rises >>>>> from some emotional threat. The best jokes are dangerous, and dangerous >>>>> because they are in some way truthful."- Kurt Vonnegut (Cold Turkey) >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello - >>>>> >>>>> I've been trying the Cinec converter from the other gentleman and I >>>>> notice the final product is a touch brighter. Anyone else notice this? >>>>> How well does this Pavtube one work? Is it a Windows to ProRes converter? >>>>> It says converter for Mac. I really need precision on the coloring. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Eric >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Benny Christensen < >>>>> bennychristensen@me.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Along this line I have a client who has been bringing me AVI's from >>>>>> AECS6 that I need to work with on my Mac. It took me weeks to find a >>>>>> converter so I am sharing it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Check out Pavtube HD Converter for Mac. $35 to convert directly to >>>>>> ProRes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Benny Christensen >>>>>> Producers Playhouse >>>>>> Oklahoma City >>>>>> 405-858-0700 >>>>>> >>>>>> "I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out >>>>>> on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center." - >>>>>> Kurt Vonnegut >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Jim Curtis wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> This comes up occasionally, so I thought I'd repost it here (from the >>>>>> Adobe Pr forum): >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.dubon.fr/conversion-prores422/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Free plug-in. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Kirk Productions, Inc >>>>> www.kirkproductions.com >>>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Kirk Productions, Inc >>>> www.kirkproductions.com >>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Kirk Productions, Inc >>> www.kirkproductions.com >>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Kirk Productions, Inc >> www.kirkproductions.com >> kirkproductions@gmail.com >> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >> >> > > -- Kirk Productions, Inc www.kirkproductions.com kirkproductions@gmail.com IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ --14dae93409f796f55f04d8490527 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Robert,
=A0
No we're talking.=A0 Your comment = sounds like it might get to my issue.=A0 I sent a Uncompressed AVI YUV to t= he Cinec program=A0as a test and got those mixed results.=A0 So, Quicktime = None?=A0 Never heard of None.=A0 Is that correct?=A0 Can you clarify the QT= CODEC?
=A0
Thanks,
Eric

= On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Robert Kjettrup <robert@stvmayday.dk> wrote:
Hi Eric

What kin= d of file did you send to the Cinec program?=A0
I have found that ffmpeg (the backend that Cinec uses, as far as i know) ha= s a different way to read YUV formats than Adobe apps, and when converting = to a Prores i find it more reliable to send a RGB encoded file (eg. Quickti= me None) to get around the way ffmpeg reads an 4:2:2 YUV file (eg. QT DNxHD= or QT uncomressed YUV 10bit)

Try this an= d see if you get better results.

- Robert


2013/3/19 Mr. Eric D. Kirk <kir= kproductions@gmail.com>
Benny,
=A0
Thanks.=A0 When I say, I see a slight c= olor change, I'm actually placing the output file directly on top of th= e base file (in my editor).=A0 So, if I adjust opacity, I see a color chang= e.=A0 In other words they are both on PC in same environment.=A0 But, truth= is, it's minimal and the editor could just as easily knock it back dow= n - however, it would take that darn 600GB file.
=A0
One plugin I've not yet tried but will, is this http://= www.dubon.fr/conversion-prores422/=A0that I saw way down below.=A0 Of a= ll of them, this might be the most likely since it appears integrated in to= after effects and I can try pushing that 600GB file through.
=A0
I've never rendered anything from AE that was over a= n hour though.
=A0
Does anyone have comments on how wel= l this plugin works?=A0 I didn't really see any comments from someone w= ho has used it.
=A0
Thanks ahead folks.

Eric

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Benny Christensen <= span dir=3D"ltr"><bennychristensen@me.com> wrote:
I think that what you = are seeing is the Gamma difference between PC and Mac, but I am not a PC gu= y so it would be hard for me to say.
=

Benny Christensen
Producers Playhouse
Oklahoma City

"One of the few good things about mode= rn times: If you die horribly on television, you will not have died in vain= . You will have entertained us."=A0- Kurt Vonnegut=A0(Cold Turkey)

On Mar 18, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:
I'm using a PC. =A0What I am trying to do is= do my work, convert back to ProRes to send back to the editor guy who uses= a Mac. =A0I received a ProRes 422(LT) file on a Mac Drive. =A0When I use t= hat Cinec coder, it works but then I place it directly above my original on= same editor timeline, adjust opacity and I see the subtle difference. =A0<= div>
I suppose he could kick it back down a shade but ideally, wo= uld like it right. =A0I know if I render out in avi, it is perfect.

Eric

On Mon, Mar 18, 20= 13 at 6:14 PM, Benny Christensen <bennychristensen@me.com> wrote:
Did you get the Mac ve= rsion of the Pavtube HD video converter?

If so look under Settings in the Format and look forFinal Cu= t Pro in the left hand column. Select it and the ProRes options appear on t= he right.

You can also customize the output to the same directory= or another directory.

Benny Christensen
P= roducers Playhouse
Oklahoma City
=

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to = another with no loss of enthusiasm."=A0- Sir Winston Churchill

=


On Mar 18, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:
I just downloaded it and appears it does not hav= e the ProRes converter. =A0Guess I misread - thought that was they key feat= ure! :) =A0The other one does work, I just notice a slightly brighter image= when I place it on top of the original ProRes 422 (LT) file.

Darn.
Eric

On Mo= n, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Benny Christensen <bennychristensen@me.c= om> wrote:
I'm not sure about= color or luminance shifts because without the converter I couldn't see= the original in anything other than VLC and that didn't play in anywhe= re near real time.

What I like is that it converts from the AVI directly to Pro= Res. Most of the converters I tried would convert to h264,but not to ProRes= . =A0I'm not sure if the windows version has the ProRes Codec since tha= t doesn't seem to be readily available on Windows.=A0I work a Mac so I = have the Mac version.

They have a free trial version so you should try it and= see if it works for you.

<= /div>

Benny Christensen
Producers Playho= use
Oklahoma City

"Well, the telling of jokes is an art of its= own, and it always rises from some emotional threat. The best jokes are da= ngerous, and dangerous because they are in some way truthful."- Kurt V= onnegut=A0(Cold Turkey)

On Mar 18, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:
Hello -=A0

I've been tryi= ng the Cinec converter from the other gentleman and I notice the final prod= uct is a touch brighter. =A0Anyone else notice this? =A0How well does this = Pavtube one work? =A0Is it a Windows to ProRes converter? =A0It says conver= ter for Mac. =A0I really need precision on the coloring.

Thanks,
Eric

On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Benny Christensen <<= a href=3D"mailto:bennychristensen@me.com" target=3D"_blank">bennychristense= n@me.com> wrote:
Along this line I have= a client who has been bringing me AVI's from AECS6 that I need to work= with on my Mac. It took me weeks to find a converter so I am sharing it.
Check out Pavtube HD Converter for Mac. $35 to convert direc= tly to ProRes.

Thanks.

Benny= Christensen
Producers Playhouse
Oklahoma City

=
"I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going= over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from t= he center."=A0- Kurt Vonnegut=A0



On Mar 8, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Jim Curtis wrote:

This comes up occas= ionally, so I thought I'd repost it here (from the Adobe Pr forum):

Free plug-in.




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