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Kirk" Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:45:28 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Windows to ProRes To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8f3067913304d849d699 --90e6ba6e8f3067913304d849d699 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Robert, Thanks. I am not certain I have that CODEC but I'm sure I can find it. Eric On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Robert Kjettrup wrote: > yes, Quciktime None... as in no compression :-). > In the english version of of the QT the codec is called "None" but might > be something else if you have a local language version. > > - Robert > > > 2013/3/19 Mr. Eric D. Kirk > >> Robert, >> >> No we're talking. Your comment sounds like it might get to my issue. I >> sent a Uncompressed AVI YUV to the Cinec program as a test and got those >> mixed results. So, Quicktime None? Never heard of None. Is that >> correct? Can you clarify the QT CODEC? >> >> Thanks, >> Eric >> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Robert Kjettrup wrote: >> >>> Hi Eric >>> >>> What kind of file did you send to the Cinec program? >>> I have found that ffmpeg (the backend that Cinec uses, as far as i know) >>> has a different way to read YUV formats than Adobe apps, and when >>> converting to a Prores i find it more reliable to send a RGB encoded file >>> (eg. Quicktime None) to get around the way ffmpeg reads an 4:2:2 YUV file >>> (eg. QT DNxHD or QT uncomressed YUV 10bit) >>> >>> Try this and see if you get better results. >>> >>> - Robert >>> >>> >>> 2013/3/19 Mr. Eric D. Kirk >>> >>>> Benny, >>>> >>>> Thanks. When I say, I see a slight color change, I'm actually placing >>>> the output file directly on top of the base file (in my editor). So, if I >>>> adjust opacity, I see a color change. In other words they are both on PC >>>> in same environment. But, truth is, it's minimal and the editor could just >>>> as easily knock it back down - however, it would take that darn 600GB file. >>>> >>>> One plugin I've not yet tried but will, is this >>>> http://www.dubon.fr/conversion-prores422/ that I saw way down below. >>>> Of all of them, this might be the most likely since it appears integrated >>>> in to after effects and I can try pushing that 600GB file through. >>>> >>>> I've never rendered anything from AE that was over an hour though. >>>> >>>> Does anyone have comments on how well this plugin works? I didn't >>>> really see any comments from someone who has used it. >>>> >>>> Thanks ahead folks. >>>> >>>> Eric >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Benny Christensen < >>>> bennychristensen@me.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think that what you are seeing is the Gamma difference between PC >>>>> and Mac, but I am not a PC guy so it would be hard for me to say. >>>>> >>>>> Benny Christensen >>>>> Producers Playhouse >>>>> Oklahoma City >>>>> 405-858-0700 >>>>> >>>>> "One of the few good things about modern times: If you die horribly on >>>>> television, you will not have died in vain. You will have entertained >>>>> us." - Kurt Vonnegut (Cold Turkey) >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'm using a PC. What I am trying to do is do my work, convert back to >>>>> ProRes to send back to the editor guy who uses a Mac. I received a ProRes >>>>> 422(LT) file on a Mac Drive. When I use that Cinec coder, it works but >>>>> then I place it directly above my original on same editor timeline, adjust >>>>> opacity and I see the subtle difference. >>>>> >>>>> I suppose he could kick it back down a shade but ideally, would like >>>>> it right. I know if I render out in avi, it is perfect. >>>>> >>>>> Eric >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Benny Christensen < >>>>> bennychristensen@me.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Did you get the Mac version of the Pavtube HD video converter? >>>>>> >>>>>> If so look under Settings in the Format and look forFinal Cut Pro in >>>>>> the left hand column. Select it and the ProRes options appear on the right. >>>>>> >>>>>> You can also customize the output to the same directory or another >>>>>> directory. >>>>>> >>>>>> Benny Christensen >>>>>> Producers Playhouse >>>>>> Oklahoma City >>>>>> 405-858-0700 >>>>>> >>>>>> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no >>>>>> loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I just downloaded it and appears it does not have the ProRes >>>>>> converter. Guess I misread - thought that was they key feature! :) The >>>>>> other one does work, I just notice a slightly brighter image when I place >>>>>> it on top of the original ProRes 422 (LT) file. >>>>>> >>>>>> Darn. >>>>>> Eric >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Benny Christensen < >>>>>> bennychristensen@me.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not sure about color or luminance shifts because without the >>>>>>> converter I couldn't see the original in anything other than VLC and that >>>>>>> didn't play in anywhere near real time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What I like is that it converts from the AVI directly to ProRes. >>>>>>> Most of the converters I tried would convert to h264,but not to ProRes. >>>>>>> I'm not sure if the windows version has the ProRes Codec since that >>>>>>> doesn't seem to be readily available on Windows. I work a Mac so I have the >>>>>>> Mac version. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They have a free trial version so you should try it and see if it >>>>>>> works for you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Benny Christensen >>>>>>> Producers Playhouse >>>>>>> Oklahoma City >>>>>>> 405-858-0700 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Well, the telling of jokes is an art of its own, and it always >>>>>>> rises from some emotional threat. The best jokes are dangerous, and >>>>>>> dangerous because they are in some way truthful."- Kurt Vonnegut (Cold >>>>>>> Turkey) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've been trying the Cinec converter from the other gentleman and I >>>>>>> notice the final product is a touch brighter. Anyone else notice this? >>>>>>> How well does this Pavtube one work? Is it a Windows to ProRes converter? >>>>>>> It says converter for Mac. I really need precision on the coloring. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Eric >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Benny Christensen < >>>>>>> bennychristensen@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Along this line I have a client who has been bringing me AVI's from >>>>>>>> AECS6 that I need to work with on my Mac. It took me weeks to find a >>>>>>>> converter so I am sharing it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Check out Pavtube HD Converter for Mac. $35 to convert directly to >>>>>>>> ProRes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Benny Christensen >>>>>>>> Producers Playhouse >>>>>>>> Oklahoma City >>>>>>>> 405-858-0700 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. >>>>>>>> Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the >>>>>>>> center." - Kurt Vonnegut >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Jim Curtis wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This comes up occasionally, so I thought I'd repost it here (from >>>>>>>> the Adobe Pr forum): >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.dubon.fr/conversion-prores422/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Free plug-in. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Kirk Productions, Inc >>>>>>> www.kirkproductions.com >>>>>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>>>>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Kirk Productions, Inc >>>>>> www.kirkproductions.com >>>>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>>>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Kirk Productions, Inc >>>>> www.kirkproductions.com >>>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Kirk Productions, Inc >>>> www.kirkproductions.com >>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Kirk Productions, Inc >> www.kirkproductions.com >> kirkproductions@gmail.com >> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >> >> > > -- Kirk Productions, Inc www.kirkproductions.com kirkproductions@gmail.com IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ --90e6ba6e8f3067913304d849d699 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Robert,
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Thanks.=A0 I am not certain I have tha= t CODEC but I'm sure I can find it.
=A0
Eric
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Robert = Kjettrup <robert@stvmayday.dk> wrote:
yes, Quciktime None... as in no compressi= on :-).
In the english version of of the QT the codec is called "None" bu= t might be something else if you have a local language version.

- Robert


2013/3/19 Mr. Eric D. Kirk <kir= kproductions@gmail.com>
Robert,
=A0
No we're talking.=A0 Your comment = sounds like it might get to my issue.=A0 I sent a Uncompressed AVI YUV to t= he Cinec program=A0as a test and got those mixed results.=A0 So, Quicktime = None?=A0 Never heard of None.=A0 Is that correct?=A0 Can you clarify the QT= CODEC?
=A0
Thanks,
Eric

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Robert Kjettrup <robert@stvm= ayday.dk> wrote:
Hi Eric

What kin= d of file did you send to the Cinec program?=A0
I have found that ffmpeg (the backend that Cinec uses, as far as i know) ha= s a different way to read YUV formats than Adobe apps, and when converting = to a Prores i find it more reliable to send a RGB encoded file (eg. Quickti= me None) to get around the way ffmpeg reads an 4:2:2 YUV file (eg. QT DNxHD= or QT uncomressed YUV 10bit)

Try this an= d see if you get better results.

- Robert


2013/3/19 Mr. Eric D. Kirk <kir= kproductions@gmail.com>
Benny,
=A0
Thanks.=A0 When I say, I see a slight c= olor change, I'm actually placing the output file directly on top of th= e base file (in my editor).=A0 So, if I adjust opacity, I see a color chang= e.=A0 In other words they are both on PC in same environment.=A0 But, truth= is, it's minimal and the editor could just as easily knock it back dow= n - however, it would take that darn 600GB file.
=A0
One plugin I've not yet tried but will, is this http://= www.dubon.fr/conversion-prores422/=A0that I saw way down below.=A0 Of a= ll of them, this might be the most likely since it appears integrated in to= after effects and I can try pushing that 600GB file through.
=A0
I've never rendered anything from AE that was over a= n hour though.
=A0
Does anyone have comments on how wel= l this plugin works?=A0 I didn't really see any comments from someone w= ho has used it.
=A0
Thanks ahead folks.

Eric

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Benny Christensen <= span dir=3D"ltr"><bennychristensen@me.com> wrote:
I think that what you = are seeing is the Gamma difference between PC and Mac, but I am not a PC gu= y so it would be hard for me to say.
=

Benny Christensen
Producers Playhouse
Oklahoma City

"One of the few good things about mode= rn times: If you die horribly on television, you will not have died in vain= . You will have entertained us."=A0- Kurt Vonnegut=A0(Cold Turkey)

On Mar 18, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:
I'm using a PC. =A0What I am trying to do is= do my work, convert back to ProRes to send back to the editor guy who uses= a Mac. =A0I received a ProRes 422(LT) file on a Mac Drive. =A0When I use t= hat Cinec coder, it works but then I place it directly above my original on= same editor timeline, adjust opacity and I see the subtle difference. =A0<= div>
I suppose he could kick it back down a shade but ideally, wo= uld like it right. =A0I know if I render out in avi, it is perfect.

Eric

On Mon, Mar 18, 20= 13 at 6:14 PM, Benny Christensen <bennychristensen@me.com> wrote:
Did you get the Mac ve= rsion of the Pavtube HD video converter?

If so look under Settings in the Format and look forFinal Cu= t Pro in the left hand column. Select it and the ProRes options appear on t= he right.

You can also customize the output to the same directory= or another directory.

Benny Christensen
P= roducers Playhouse
Oklahoma City
=

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to = another with no loss of enthusiasm."=A0- Sir Winston Churchill

=


On Mar 18, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:
I just downloaded it and appears it does not hav= e the ProRes converter. =A0Guess I misread - thought that was they key feat= ure! :) =A0The other one does work, I just notice a slightly brighter image= when I place it on top of the original ProRes 422 (LT) file.

Darn.
Eric

On Mo= n, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Benny Christensen <bennychristensen@me.c= om> wrote:
I'm not sure about= color or luminance shifts because without the converter I couldn't see= the original in anything other than VLC and that didn't play in anywhe= re near real time.

What I like is that it converts from the AVI directly to Pro= Res. Most of the converters I tried would convert to h264,but not to ProRes= . =A0I'm not sure if the windows version has the ProRes Codec since tha= t doesn't seem to be readily available on Windows.=A0I work a Mac so I = have the Mac version.

They have a free trial version so you should try it and= see if it works for you.

<= /div>

Benny Christensen
Producers Playho= use
Oklahoma City

"Well, the telling of jokes is an art of its= own, and it always rises from some emotional threat. The best jokes are da= ngerous, and dangerous because they are in some way truthful."- Kurt V= onnegut=A0(Cold Turkey)

On Mar 18, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:
Hello -=A0

I've been tryi= ng the Cinec converter from the other gentleman and I notice the final prod= uct is a touch brighter. =A0Anyone else notice this? =A0How well does this = Pavtube one work? =A0Is it a Windows to ProRes converter? =A0It says conver= ter for Mac. =A0I really need precision on the coloring.

Thanks,
Eric

On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Benny Christensen <<= a href=3D"mailto:bennychristensen@me.com" target=3D"_blank">bennychristense= n@me.com> wrote:
Along this line I have= a client who has been bringing me AVI's from AECS6 that I need to work= with on my Mac. It took me weeks to find a converter so I am sharing it.
Check out Pavtube HD Converter for Mac. $35 to convert direc= tly to ProRes.

Thanks.

Benny= Christensen
Producers Playhouse
Oklahoma City

=
"I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going= over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from t= he center."=A0- Kurt Vonnegut=A0



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Free plug-in.




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