Mailing List AE-List@media-motion.tv ? Message #48190
From: Bruce Wainer <brwainer@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AE] Windows to ProRes
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:05:02 -0400
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
 Message Header

Undecoded Message
Everyone has it. It's not a codec. Choose Quicktime as your format or container, and in the list of codecs, there is a 'None' option. As in, you're telling it not to use a codec. This is equivalent to an uncompressed AVI - in fact the data inside the container will end up being the same.

Bruce Wainer

On Mar 19, 2013, at 12:45 PM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" <kirkproductions@gmail.com> wrote:

Robert,
 
Thanks.  I am not certain I have that CODEC but I'm sure I can find it.
 
Eric

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Robert Kjettrup <robert@stvmayday.dk> wrote:
yes, Quciktime None... as in no compression :-).
In the english version of of the QT the codec is called "None" but might be something else if you have a local language version.

- Robert


2013/3/19 Mr. Eric D. Kirk <kirkproductions@gmail.com>
Robert,
 
No we're talking.  Your comment sounds like it might get to my issue.  I sent a Uncompressed AVI YUV to the Cinec program as a test and got those mixed results.  So, Quicktime None?  Never heard of None.  Is that correct?  Can you clarify the QT CODEC?
 
Thanks,
Eric

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Robert Kjettrup <robert@stvmayday.dk> wrote:
Hi Eric

What kind of file did you send to the Cinec program? 
I have found that ffmpeg (the backend that Cinec uses, as far as i know) has a different way to read YUV formats than Adobe apps, and when converting to a Prores i find it more reliable to send a RGB encoded file (eg. Quicktime None) to get around the way ffmpeg reads an 4:2:2 YUV file (eg. QT DNxHD or QT uncomressed YUV 10bit)

Try this and see if you get better results.

- Robert


2013/3/19 Mr. Eric D. Kirk <kirkproductions@gmail.com>
Benny,
 
Thanks.  When I say, I see a slight color change, I'm actually placing the output file directly on top of the base file (in my editor).  So, if I adjust opacity, I see a color change.  In other words they are both on PC in same environment.  But, truth is, it's minimal and the editor could just as easily knock it back down - however, it would take that darn 600GB file.
 
One plugin I've not yet tried but will, is this http://www.dubon.fr/conversion-prores422/ that I saw way down below.  Of all of them, this might be the most likely since it appears integrated in to after effects and I can try pushing that 600GB file through.
 
I've never rendered anything from AE that was over an hour though.
 
Does anyone have comments on how well this plugin works?  I didn't really see any comments from someone who has used it.
 
Thanks ahead folks.

Eric

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Benny Christensen <bennychristensen@me.com> wrote:
I think that what you are seeing is the Gamma difference between PC and Mac, but I am not a PC guy so it would be hard for me to say.

Benny Christensen
Producers Playhouse
Oklahoma City

"One of the few good things about modern times: If you die horribly on television, you will not have died in vain. You will have entertained us." - Kurt Vonnegut (Cold Turkey)

On Mar 18, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:

I'm using a PC.  What I am trying to do is do my work, convert back to ProRes to send back to the editor guy who uses a Mac.  I received a ProRes 422(LT) file on a Mac Drive.  When I use that Cinec coder, it works but then I place it directly above my original on same editor timeline, adjust opacity and I see the subtle difference.  

I suppose he could kick it back down a shade but ideally, would like it right.  I know if I render out in avi, it is perfect.

Eric

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Benny Christensen <bennychristensen@me.com> wrote:
Did you get the Mac version of the Pavtube HD video converter?

If so look under Settings in the Format and look forFinal Cut Pro in the left hand column. Select it and the ProRes options appear on the right.

You can also customize the output to the same directory or another directory.

Benny Christensen
Producers Playhouse
Oklahoma City

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill




On Mar 18, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:

I just downloaded it and appears it does not have the ProRes converter.  Guess I misread - thought that was they key feature! :)  The other one does work, I just notice a slightly brighter image when I place it on top of the original ProRes 422 (LT) file.

Darn.
Eric

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Benny Christensen <bennychristensen@me.com> wrote:
I'm not sure about color or luminance shifts because without the converter I couldn't see the original in anything other than VLC and that didn't play in anywhere near real time.

What I like is that it converts from the AVI directly to ProRes. Most of the converters I tried would convert to h264,but not to ProRes.  I'm not sure if the windows version has the ProRes Codec since that doesn't seem to be readily available on Windows. I work a Mac so I have the Mac version.

They have a free trial version so you should try it and see if it works for you.


Benny Christensen
Producers Playhouse
Oklahoma City

"Well, the telling of jokes is an art of its own, and it always rises from some emotional threat. The best jokes are dangerous, and dangerous because they are in some way truthful."- Kurt Vonnegut (Cold Turkey)

On Mar 18, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:

Hello - 

I've been trying the Cinec converter from the other gentleman and I notice the final product is a touch brighter.  Anyone else notice this?  How well does this Pavtube one work?  Is it a Windows to ProRes converter?  It says converter for Mac.  I really need precision on the coloring.

Thanks,
Eric

On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Benny Christensen <bennychristensen@me.com> wrote:
Along this line I have a client who has been bringing me AVI's from AECS6 that I need to work with on my Mac. It took me weeks to find a converter so I am sharing it.

Check out Pavtube HD Converter for Mac. $35 to convert directly to ProRes.

Thanks.

Benny Christensen
Producers Playhouse
Oklahoma City

"I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center." - Kurt Vonnegut 




On Mar 8, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Jim Curtis wrote:

This comes up occasionally, so I thought I'd repost it here (from the Adobe Pr forum):


Free plug-in.




--
 




--
 




--
 





--
 




--
 
 
Subscribe (FEED) Subscribe (DIGEST) Subscribe (INDEX) Unsubscribe Mail to ListMaster