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Kirk" Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:11:34 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Windows to ProRes To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93409f7cc700e04d84a33dc --14dae93409f7cc700e04d84a33dc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Easy enough Bruce - I would have checked but not near my home PC at moment. Appreciate it! Eric On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Bruce Wainer wrote: > Everyone has it. It's not a codec. Choose Quicktime as your format or > container, and in the list of codecs, there is a 'None' option. As in, > you're telling it not to use a codec. This is equivalent to an uncompressed > AVI - in fact the data inside the container will end up being the same. > > Bruce Wainer > > On Mar 19, 2013, at 12:45 PM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" < > kirkproductions@gmail.com> wrote: > > Robert, > > Thanks. I am not certain I have that CODEC but I'm sure I can find it. > > Eric > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Robert Kjettrup wrote: > >> yes, Quciktime None... as in no compression :-). >> In the english version of of the QT the codec is called "None" but might >> be something else if you have a local language version. >> >> - Robert >> >> >> 2013/3/19 Mr. Eric D. Kirk >> >>> Robert, >>> >>> No we're talking. Your comment sounds like it might get to my issue. I >>> sent a Uncompressed AVI YUV to the Cinec program as a test and got those >>> mixed results. So, Quicktime None? Never heard of None. Is that >>> correct? Can you clarify the QT CODEC? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Eric >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Robert Kjettrup wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Eric >>>> >>>> What kind of file did you send to the Cinec program? >>>> I have found that ffmpeg (the backend that Cinec uses, as far as i >>>> know) has a different way to read YUV formats than Adobe apps, and when >>>> converting to a Prores i find it more reliable to send a RGB encoded file >>>> (eg. Quicktime None) to get around the way ffmpeg reads an 4:2:2 YUV file >>>> (eg. QT DNxHD or QT uncomressed YUV 10bit) >>>> >>>> Try this and see if you get better results. >>>> >>>> - Robert >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/3/19 Mr. Eric D. Kirk >>>> >>>>> Benny, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. When I say, I see a slight color change, I'm actually placing >>>>> the output file directly on top of the base file (in my editor). So, if I >>>>> adjust opacity, I see a color change. In other words they are both on PC >>>>> in same environment. But, truth is, it's minimal and the editor could just >>>>> as easily knock it back down - however, it would take that darn 600GB file. >>>>> >>>>> One plugin I've not yet tried but will, is this >>>>> http://www.dubon.fr/conversion-prores422/ that I saw way down below. >>>>> Of all of them, this might be the most likely since it appears integrated >>>>> in to after effects and I can try pushing that 600GB file through. >>>>> >>>>> I've never rendered anything from AE that was over an hour though. >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone have comments on how well this plugin works? I didn't >>>>> really see any comments from someone who has used it. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks ahead folks. >>>>> >>>>> Eric >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Benny Christensen < >>>>> bennychristensen@me.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think that what you are seeing is the Gamma difference between PC >>>>>> and Mac, but I am not a PC guy so it would be hard for me to say. >>>>>> >>>>>> Benny Christensen >>>>>> Producers Playhouse >>>>>> Oklahoma City >>>>>> 405-858-0700 >>>>>> >>>>>> "One of the few good things about modern times: If you die horribly >>>>>> on television, you will not have died in vain. You will have entertained >>>>>> us." - Kurt Vonnegut (Cold Turkey) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm using a PC. What I am trying to do is do my work, convert back >>>>>> to ProRes to send back to the editor guy who uses a Mac. I received a >>>>>> ProRes 422(LT) file on a Mac Drive. When I use that Cinec coder, it works >>>>>> but then I place it directly above my original on same editor timeline, >>>>>> adjust opacity and I see the subtle difference. >>>>>> >>>>>> I suppose he could kick it back down a shade but ideally, would like >>>>>> it right. I know if I render out in avi, it is perfect. >>>>>> >>>>>> Eric >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Benny Christensen < >>>>>> bennychristensen@me.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Did you get the Mac version of the Pavtube HD video converter? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If so look under Settings in the Format and look forFinal Cut Pro in >>>>>>> the left hand column. Select it and the ProRes options appear on the right. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can also customize the output to the same directory or another >>>>>>> directory. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Benny Christensen >>>>>>> Producers Playhouse >>>>>>> Oklahoma City >>>>>>> 405-858-0700 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no >>>>>>> loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just downloaded it and appears it does not have the ProRes >>>>>>> converter. Guess I misread - thought that was they key feature! :) The >>>>>>> other one does work, I just notice a slightly brighter image when I place >>>>>>> it on top of the original ProRes 422 (LT) file. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Darn. >>>>>>> Eric >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Benny Christensen < >>>>>>> bennychristensen@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm not sure about color or luminance shifts because without the >>>>>>>> converter I couldn't see the original in anything other than VLC and that >>>>>>>> didn't play in anywhere near real time. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What I like is that it converts from the AVI directly to ProRes. >>>>>>>> Most of the converters I tried would convert to h264,but not to ProRes. >>>>>>>> I'm not sure if the windows version has the ProRes Codec since that >>>>>>>> doesn't seem to be readily available on Windows. I work a Mac so I have the >>>>>>>> Mac version. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They have a free trial version so you should try it and see if it >>>>>>>> works for you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Benny Christensen >>>>>>>> Producers Playhouse >>>>>>>> Oklahoma City >>>>>>>> 405-858-0700 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Well, the telling of jokes is an art of its own, and it always >>>>>>>> rises from some emotional threat. The best jokes are dangerous, and >>>>>>>> dangerous because they are in some way truthful."- Kurt Vonnegut (Cold >>>>>>>> Turkey) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello - >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've been trying the Cinec converter from the other gentleman and I >>>>>>>> notice the final product is a touch brighter. Anyone else notice this? >>>>>>>> How well does this Pavtube one work? Is it a Windows to ProRes converter? >>>>>>>> It says converter for Mac. I really need precision on the coloring. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Eric >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Benny Christensen < >>>>>>>> bennychristensen@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Along this line I have a client who has been bringing me AVI's >>>>>>>>> from AECS6 that I need to work with on my Mac. It took me weeks to find a >>>>>>>>> converter so I am sharing it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Check out Pavtube HD Converter for Mac. $35 to convert directly to >>>>>>>>> ProRes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Benny Christensen >>>>>>>>> Producers Playhouse >>>>>>>>> Oklahoma City >>>>>>>>> 405-858-0700 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. >>>>>>>>> Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the >>>>>>>>> center." - Kurt Vonnegut >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Jim Curtis wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This comes up occasionally, so I thought I'd repost it here (from >>>>>>>>> the Adobe Pr forum): >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.dubon.fr/conversion-prores422/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Free plug-in. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Kirk Productions, Inc >>>>>>>> www.kirkproductions.com >>>>>>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>>>>>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Kirk Productions, Inc >>>>>>> www.kirkproductions.com >>>>>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>>>>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Kirk Productions, Inc >>>>>> www.kirkproductions.com >>>>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>>>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Kirk Productions, Inc >>>>> www.kirkproductions.com >>>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Kirk Productions, Inc >>> www.kirkproductions.com >>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > Kirk Productions, Inc > www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com > IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ > > > -- Kirk Productions, Inc www.kirkproductions.com kirkproductions@gmail.com IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ --14dae93409f7cc700e04d84a33dc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Easy enough Bruce - I would have checked but not near my home PC at mo= ment.=A0 Appreciate it!

Eric

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Bruce Wainer <= ;brwainer@gmail.com= > wrote:
Everyone has it. It's no= t a codec. Choose Quicktime as your format or container, and in the list of= codecs, there is a 'None' option. As in, you're telling it not= to use a codec. This is equivalent to an uncompressed AVI - in fact the da= ta inside the container will end up being the same.

Bruce Wainer

On Mar 19, 2013, at 12:45 PM, "= ;Mr. Eric D. Kirk" <kirkproductions@gmail.com> wrote:

Robert,
=A0
T= hanks.=A0 I am not certain I have that CODEC but I'm sure I can find it= .
=A0
Eric

On T= ue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Robert Kjettrup <robert@stvmayday.dk&g= t; wrote:
yes, Quciktime None... as in no compressi= on :-).
In the english version of of the QT the codec is called "None" bu= t might be something else if you have a local language version.

- Robert


2013/3/19 Mr. Eric D. Kirk <kir= kproductions@gmail.com>
Robert,
=A0
No we're talking.=A0 Your comment = sounds like it might get to my issue.=A0 I sent a Uncompressed AVI YUV to t= he Cinec program=A0as a test and got those mixed results.=A0 So, Quicktime = None?=A0 Never heard of None.=A0 Is that correct?=A0 Can you clarify the QT= CODEC?
=A0
Thanks,
Eric

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Robert Kjettrup <robert@stvm= ayday.dk> wrote:
Hi Eric

What kin= d of file did you send to the Cinec program?=A0
I have found that ffmpeg (the backend that Cinec uses, as far as i know) ha= s a different way to read YUV formats than Adobe apps, and when converting = to a Prores i find it more reliable to send a RGB encoded file (eg. Quickti= me None) to get around the way ffmpeg reads an 4:2:2 YUV file (eg. QT DNxHD= or QT uncomressed YUV 10bit)

Try this an= d see if you get better results.

- Robert


2013/3/19 Mr. Eric D. Kirk <kir= kproductions@gmail.com>
Benny,
=A0
Thanks.=A0 When I say, I see a slight c= olor change, I'm actually placing the output file directly on top of th= e base file (in my editor).=A0 So, if I adjust opacity, I see a color chang= e.=A0 In other words they are both on PC in same environment.=A0 But, truth= is, it's minimal and the editor could just as easily knock it back dow= n - however, it would take that darn 600GB file.
=A0
One plugin I've not yet tried but will, is this http://= www.dubon.fr/conversion-prores422/=A0that I saw way down below.=A0 Of a= ll of them, this might be the most likely since it appears integrated in to= after effects and I can try pushing that 600GB file through.
=A0
I've never rendered anything from AE that was over a= n hour though.
=A0
Does anyone have comments on how wel= l this plugin works?=A0 I didn't really see any comments from someone w= ho has used it.
=A0
Thanks ahead folks.

Eric

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Benny Christensen <= span dir=3D"ltr"><bennychristensen@me.com> wrote:
I think that what you = are seeing is the Gamma difference between PC and Mac, but I am not a PC gu= y so it would be hard for me to say.
=

Benny Christensen
Producers Playhouse
Oklahoma City

"One of the few good things about mode= rn times: If you die horribly on television, you will not have died in vain= . You will have entertained us."=A0- Kurt Vonnegut=A0(Cold Turkey)

On Mar 18, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:
I'm using a PC. =A0What I am trying to do is= do my work, convert back to ProRes to send back to the editor guy who uses= a Mac. =A0I received a ProRes 422(LT) file on a Mac Drive. =A0When I use t= hat Cinec coder, it works but then I place it directly above my original on= same editor timeline, adjust opacity and I see the subtle difference. =A0<= div>
I suppose he could kick it back down a shade but ideally, wo= uld like it right. =A0I know if I render out in avi, it is perfect.

Eric

On Mon, Mar 18, 20= 13 at 6:14 PM, Benny Christensen <bennychristensen@me.com> wrote:
Did you get the Mac ve= rsion of the Pavtube HD video converter?

If so look under Settings in the Format and look forFinal Cu= t Pro in the left hand column. Select it and the ProRes options appear on t= he right.

You can also customize the output to the same directory= or another directory.

Benny Christensen
P= roducers Playhouse
Oklahoma City
=

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to = another with no loss of enthusiasm."=A0- Sir Winston Churchill

=


On Mar 18, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:
I just downloaded it and appears it does not hav= e the ProRes converter. =A0Guess I misread - thought that was they key feat= ure! :) =A0The other one does work, I just notice a slightly brighter image= when I place it on top of the original ProRes 422 (LT) file.

Darn.
Eric

On Mo= n, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Benny Christensen <bennychristensen@me.c= om> wrote:
I'm not sure about= color or luminance shifts because without the converter I couldn't see= the original in anything other than VLC and that didn't play in anywhe= re near real time.

What I like is that it converts from the AVI directly to Pro= Res. Most of the converters I tried would convert to h264,but not to ProRes= . =A0I'm not sure if the windows version has the ProRes Codec since tha= t doesn't seem to be readily available on Windows.=A0I work a Mac so I = have the Mac version.

They have a free trial version so you should try it and= see if it works for you.

<= /div>

Benny Christensen
Producers Playho= use
Oklahoma City

"Well, the telling of jokes is an art of its= own, and it always rises from some emotional threat. The best jokes are da= ngerous, and dangerous because they are in some way truthful."- Kurt V= onnegut=A0(Cold Turkey)

On Mar 18, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:
Hello -=A0

I've been tryi= ng the Cinec converter from the other gentleman and I notice the final prod= uct is a touch brighter. =A0Anyone else notice this? =A0How well does this = Pavtube one work? =A0Is it a Windows to ProRes converter? =A0It says conver= ter for Mac. =A0I really need precision on the coloring.

Thanks,
Eric

On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Benny Christensen <<= a href=3D"mailto:bennychristensen@me.com" target=3D"_blank">bennychristense= n@me.com> wrote:
Along this line I have= a client who has been bringing me AVI's from AECS6 that I need to work= with on my Mac. It took me weeks to find a converter so I am sharing it.
Check out Pavtube HD Converter for Mac. $35 to convert direc= tly to ProRes.

Thanks.

Benny= Christensen
Producers Playhouse
Oklahoma City

=
"I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going= over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from t= he center."=A0- Kurt Vonnegut=A0



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This comes up occas= ionally, so I thought I'd repost it here (from the Adobe Pr forum):

Free plug-in.




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