Return-Path: Received: from mail-ia0-f171.google.com ([209.85.210.171] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5008409 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 23:02:34 +0100 Received: by mail-ia0-f171.google.com with SMTP id z13so861038iaz.16 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:09:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=M2F7iTwwBIZ4gtNTdofTm6AmTt+9kEUOSboMrkGU6so=; b=CZE9+9hGhsWrj/R+d6wjxIlwdiwkrvl40yx4Bz9/urInNLOLsgQdmyndp3mdEZgzC1 gfg1oPxIg1rpfVlTU7LSPAiM9OdlpTLK3IL1RX+KqouAUtNzBkvdx47GnCs7/mEvi8LC ErcTYY3smCrE+QNz6Vi97f7qhoS4D/iRSgvHE/CxdOaJpUCTayBr0JnxvNcKUR+pNSz5 9f4jUG1lnGdnTURJLTE8huy7e0T3UWVNGplrhsFRUQdq4qHNqjC8sFx5DTP9xhHabvvD QmNRVSVVKjN+8HEmu/wxO8sAHkZbPsoJlXWJhDJ8goKLbKK/VORDr5EL+q6R27a9jCip a4qQ== X-Received: by 10.42.175.73 with SMTP id az9mr7495788icb.55.1363730986128; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:09:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.7.41 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:09:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 18:09:24 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Windows to ProRes To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8f30ff5c9a04d84e5cbc --90e6ba6e8f30ff5c9a04d84e5cbc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello, I just installed this ProRes Dubon converter for AE, the plugin. Having some difficulty that I think has to do with probably the FFMPEG part. ( http://www.dubon.fr/conversion-prores422/) On this website, it says copy all contents in to scripts directory in Adobe AE, which places a folder containing 3 FFMPEG exe files and the script file goes in fine. (The contents of the zip are 2 folders, one with FFMPEG, the other with the script). In AE, the feature opens up, I select the quality, click Convert and it does zero. Almost like it's not activating the execute file. Anyone have an idea what I'm doing wrong? Thanks, Eric On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Bruce Wainer wrote: > Everyone has it. It's not a codec. Choose Quicktime as your format or > container, and in the list of codecs, there is a 'None' option. As in, > you're telling it not to use a codec. This is equivalent to an uncompressed > AVI - in fact the data inside the container will end up being the same. > > Bruce Wainer > > On Mar 19, 2013, at 12:45 PM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" < > kirkproductions@gmail.com> wrote: > > Robert, > > Thanks. I am not certain I have that CODEC but I'm sure I can find it. > > Eric > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Robert Kjettrup wrote: > >> yes, Quciktime None... as in no compression :-). >> In the english version of of the QT the codec is called "None" but might >> be something else if you have a local language version. >> >> - Robert >> >> >> 2013/3/19 Mr. Eric D. Kirk >> >>> Robert, >>> >>> No we're talking. Your comment sounds like it might get to my issue. I >>> sent a Uncompressed AVI YUV to the Cinec program as a test and got those >>> mixed results. So, Quicktime None? Never heard of None. Is that >>> correct? Can you clarify the QT CODEC? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Eric >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Robert Kjettrup wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Eric >>>> >>>> What kind of file did you send to the Cinec program? >>>> I have found that ffmpeg (the backend that Cinec uses, as far as i >>>> know) has a different way to read YUV formats than Adobe apps, and when >>>> converting to a Prores i find it more reliable to send a RGB encoded file >>>> (eg. Quicktime None) to get around the way ffmpeg reads an 4:2:2 YUV file >>>> (eg. QT DNxHD or QT uncomressed YUV 10bit) >>>> >>>> Try this and see if you get better results. >>>> >>>> - Robert >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/3/19 Mr. Eric D. Kirk >>>> >>>>> Benny, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. When I say, I see a slight color change, I'm actually placing >>>>> the output file directly on top of the base file (in my editor). So, if I >>>>> adjust opacity, I see a color change. In other words they are both on PC >>>>> in same environment. But, truth is, it's minimal and the editor could just >>>>> as easily knock it back down - however, it would take that darn 600GB file. >>>>> >>>>> One plugin I've not yet tried but will, is this >>>>> http://www.dubon.fr/conversion-prores422/ that I saw way down below. >>>>> Of all of them, this might be the most likely since it appears integrated >>>>> in to after effects and I can try pushing that 600GB file through. >>>>> >>>>> I've never rendered anything from AE that was over an hour though. >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone have comments on how well this plugin works? I didn't >>>>> really see any comments from someone who has used it. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks ahead folks. >>>>> >>>>> Eric >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Benny Christensen < >>>>> bennychristensen@me.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think that what you are seeing is the Gamma difference between PC >>>>>> and Mac, but I am not a PC guy so it would be hard for me to say. >>>>>> >>>>>> Benny Christensen >>>>>> Producers Playhouse >>>>>> Oklahoma City >>>>>> 405-858-0700 >>>>>> >>>>>> "One of the few good things about modern times: If you die horribly >>>>>> on television, you will not have died in vain. You will have entertained >>>>>> us." - Kurt Vonnegut (Cold Turkey) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm using a PC. What I am trying to do is do my work, convert back >>>>>> to ProRes to send back to the editor guy who uses a Mac. I received a >>>>>> ProRes 422(LT) file on a Mac Drive. When I use that Cinec coder, it works >>>>>> but then I place it directly above my original on same editor timeline, >>>>>> adjust opacity and I see the subtle difference. >>>>>> >>>>>> I suppose he could kick it back down a shade but ideally, would like >>>>>> it right. I know if I render out in avi, it is perfect. >>>>>> >>>>>> Eric >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Benny Christensen < >>>>>> bennychristensen@me.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Did you get the Mac version of the Pavtube HD video converter? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If so look under Settings in the Format and look forFinal Cut Pro in >>>>>>> the left hand column. Select it and the ProRes options appear on the right. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can also customize the output to the same directory or another >>>>>>> directory. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Benny Christensen >>>>>>> Producers Playhouse >>>>>>> Oklahoma City >>>>>>> 405-858-0700 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no >>>>>>> loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just downloaded it and appears it does not have the ProRes >>>>>>> converter. Guess I misread - thought that was they key feature! :) The >>>>>>> other one does work, I just notice a slightly brighter image when I place >>>>>>> it on top of the original ProRes 422 (LT) file. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Darn. >>>>>>> Eric >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Benny Christensen < >>>>>>> bennychristensen@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm not sure about color or luminance shifts because without the >>>>>>>> converter I couldn't see the original in anything other than VLC and that >>>>>>>> didn't play in anywhere near real time. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What I like is that it converts from the AVI directly to ProRes. >>>>>>>> Most of the converters I tried would convert to h264,but not to ProRes. >>>>>>>> I'm not sure if the windows version has the ProRes Codec since that >>>>>>>> doesn't seem to be readily available on Windows. I work a Mac so I have the >>>>>>>> Mac version. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They have a free trial version so you should try it and see if it >>>>>>>> works for you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Benny Christensen >>>>>>>> Producers Playhouse >>>>>>>> Oklahoma City >>>>>>>> 405-858-0700 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Well, the telling of jokes is an art of its own, and it always >>>>>>>> rises from some emotional threat. The best jokes are dangerous, and >>>>>>>> dangerous because they are in some way truthful."- Kurt Vonnegut (Cold >>>>>>>> Turkey) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello - >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've been trying the Cinec converter from the other gentleman and I >>>>>>>> notice the final product is a touch brighter. Anyone else notice this? >>>>>>>> How well does this Pavtube one work? Is it a Windows to ProRes converter? >>>>>>>> It says converter for Mac. I really need precision on the coloring. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Eric >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Benny Christensen < >>>>>>>> bennychristensen@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Along this line I have a client who has been bringing me AVI's >>>>>>>>> from AECS6 that I need to work with on my Mac. It took me weeks to find a >>>>>>>>> converter so I am sharing it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Check out Pavtube HD Converter for Mac. $35 to convert directly to >>>>>>>>> ProRes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Benny Christensen >>>>>>>>> Producers Playhouse >>>>>>>>> Oklahoma City >>>>>>>>> 405-858-0700 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. >>>>>>>>> Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the >>>>>>>>> center." - Kurt Vonnegut >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Jim Curtis wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This comes up occasionally, so I thought I'd repost it here (from >>>>>>>>> the Adobe Pr forum): >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.dubon.fr/conversion-prores422/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Free plug-in. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Kirk Productions, Inc >>>>>>>> www.kirkproductions.com >>>>>>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>>>>>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Kirk Productions, Inc >>>>>>> www.kirkproductions.com >>>>>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>>>>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Kirk Productions, Inc >>>>>> www.kirkproductions.com >>>>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>>>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Kirk Productions, Inc >>>>> www.kirkproductions.com >>>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Kirk Productions, Inc >>> www.kirkproductions.com >>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > Kirk Productions, Inc > www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com > IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ > > > -- Kirk Productions, Inc www.kirkproductions.com kirkproductions@gmail.com IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ --90e6ba6e8f30ff5c9a04d84e5cbc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello,

I just installed this ProRes Dubon converter for = AE, the plugin. =A0Having some difficulty that I think has to do with proba= bly the FFMPEG part. =A0(http://www.dubon.fr/conversion-prores422/)

On this website, it says copy all contents in to script= s directory in Adobe AE, which places a folder containing 3 FFMPEG exe file= s and the script file goes in fine. =A0(The contents of the zip are 2 folde= rs, one with FFMPEG, the other with the script).

In AE, the feature opens up, I select the quality, clic= k Convert and it does zero. =A0Almost like it's not activating the exec= ute file.

Anyone have an idea what I'm doing w= rong?

Thanks,
Eric



On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Bruce Wainer <brwai= ner@gmail.com> wrote:
Everyone has i= t. It's not a codec. Choose Quicktime as your format or container, and = in the list of codecs, there is a 'None' option. As in, you're = telling it not to use a codec. This is equivalent to an uncompressed AVI - = in fact the data inside the container will end up being the same.

Bruce Wainer

On Mar 19, 2013, at 12:45 PM, "= ;Mr. Eric D. Kirk" <kirkproductions@gmail.com> wrote:

Robert,
=A0
T= hanks.=A0 I am not certain I have that CODEC but I'm sure I can find it= .
=A0
Eric

On T= ue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Robert Kjettrup <robert@stvmayday.dk&g= t; wrote:
yes, Quciktime None... as in no compressi= on :-).
In the english version of of the QT the codec is called "None" bu= t might be something else if you have a local language version.

- Robert


2013/3/19 Mr. Eric D. Kirk <kir= kproductions@gmail.com>
Robert,
=A0
No we're talking.=A0 Your comment = sounds like it might get to my issue.=A0 I sent a Uncompressed AVI YUV to t= he Cinec program=A0as a test and got those mixed results.=A0 So, Quicktime = None?=A0 Never heard of None.=A0 Is that correct?=A0 Can you clarify the QT= CODEC?
=A0
Thanks,
Eric

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Robert Kjettrup <robert@stvm= ayday.dk> wrote:
Hi Eric

What kin= d of file did you send to the Cinec program?=A0
I have found that ffmpeg (the backend that Cinec uses, as far as i know) ha= s a different way to read YUV formats than Adobe apps, and when converting = to a Prores i find it more reliable to send a RGB encoded file (eg. Quickti= me None) to get around the way ffmpeg reads an 4:2:2 YUV file (eg. QT DNxHD= or QT uncomressed YUV 10bit)

Try this an= d see if you get better results.

- Robert


2013/3/19 Mr. Eric D. Kirk <kir= kproductions@gmail.com>
Benny,
=A0
Thanks.=A0 When I say, I see a slight c= olor change, I'm actually placing the output file directly on top of th= e base file (in my editor).=A0 So, if I adjust opacity, I see a color chang= e.=A0 In other words they are both on PC in same environment.=A0 But, truth= is, it's minimal and the editor could just as easily knock it back dow= n - however, it would take that darn 600GB file.
=A0
One plugin I've not yet tried but will, is this http://= www.dubon.fr/conversion-prores422/=A0that I saw way down below.=A0 Of a= ll of them, this might be the most likely since it appears integrated in to= after effects and I can try pushing that 600GB file through.
=A0
I've never rendered anything from AE that was over a= n hour though.
=A0
Does anyone have comments on how wel= l this plugin works?=A0 I didn't really see any comments from someone w= ho has used it.
=A0
Thanks ahead folks.

Eric

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Benny Christensen <= span dir=3D"ltr"><bennychristensen@me.com> wrote:
I think that what you = are seeing is the Gamma difference between PC and Mac, but I am not a PC gu= y so it would be hard for me to say.
=

Benny Christensen
Producers Playhouse
Oklahoma City

"One of the few good things about mode= rn times: If you die horribly on television, you will not have died in vain= . You will have entertained us."=A0- Kurt Vonnegut=A0(Cold Turkey)

On Mar 18, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:
I'm using a PC. =A0What I am trying to do is= do my work, convert back to ProRes to send back to the editor guy who uses= a Mac. =A0I received a ProRes 422(LT) file on a Mac Drive. =A0When I use t= hat Cinec coder, it works but then I place it directly above my original on= same editor timeline, adjust opacity and I see the subtle difference. =A0<= div>
I suppose he could kick it back down a shade but ideally, wo= uld like it right. =A0I know if I render out in avi, it is perfect.

Eric

On Mon, Mar 18, 20= 13 at 6:14 PM, Benny Christensen <bennychristensen@me.com> wrote:
Did you get the Mac ve= rsion of the Pavtube HD video converter?

If so look under Settings in the Format and look forFinal Cu= t Pro in the left hand column. Select it and the ProRes options appear on t= he right.

You can also customize the output to the same directory= or another directory.

Benny Christensen
P= roducers Playhouse
Oklahoma City
=

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to = another with no loss of enthusiasm."=A0- Sir Winston Churchill

=


On Mar 18, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:
I just downloaded it and appears it does not hav= e the ProRes converter. =A0Guess I misread - thought that was they key feat= ure! :) =A0The other one does work, I just notice a slightly brighter image= when I place it on top of the original ProRes 422 (LT) file.

Darn.
Eric

On Mo= n, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Benny Christensen <bennychristensen@me.c= om> wrote:
I'm not sure about= color or luminance shifts because without the converter I couldn't see= the original in anything other than VLC and that didn't play in anywhe= re near real time.

What I like is that it converts from the AVI directly to Pro= Res. Most of the converters I tried would convert to h264,but not to ProRes= . =A0I'm not sure if the windows version has the ProRes Codec since tha= t doesn't seem to be readily available on Windows.=A0I work a Mac so I = have the Mac version.

They have a free trial version so you should try it and= see if it works for you.

<= /div>

Benny Christensen
Producers Playho= use
Oklahoma City

"Well, the telling of jokes is an art of its= own, and it always rises from some emotional threat. The best jokes are da= ngerous, and dangerous because they are in some way truthful."- Kurt V= onnegut=A0(Cold Turkey)

On Mar 18, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:
Hello -=A0

I've been tryi= ng the Cinec converter from the other gentleman and I notice the final prod= uct is a touch brighter. =A0Anyone else notice this? =A0How well does this = Pavtube one work? =A0Is it a Windows to ProRes converter? =A0It says conver= ter for Mac. =A0I really need precision on the coloring.

Thanks,
Eric

On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Benny Christensen <<= a href=3D"mailto:bennychristensen@me.com" target=3D"_blank">bennychristense= n@me.com> wrote:
Along this line I have= a client who has been bringing me AVI's from AECS6 that I need to work= with on my Mac. It took me weeks to find a converter so I am sharing it.
Check out Pavtube HD Converter for Mac. $35 to convert direc= tly to ProRes.

Thanks.

Benny= Christensen
Producers Playhouse
Oklahoma City

=
"I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going= over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from t= he center."=A0- Kurt Vonnegut=A0



On Mar 8, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Jim Curtis wrote:

This comes up occas= ionally, so I thought I'd repost it here (from the Adobe Pr forum):

Free plug-in.




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