Return-Path: Received: from cri.crishdesign.com ([198.57.142.178] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5015165 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:39:46 +0100 Received: from 106-72-agavebb-nm.abq.nm.agavebb.net ([199.21.106.72]:53273 helo=[192.168.0.8]) by cri.crishdesign.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UKZpu-0002ed-5B for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 13:47:10 -0600 From: Chris Meyer Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_4961E964-CAB7-414E-8522-AC0C2305A964" Subject: Re: [AE] Adobe Refine Edge Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 13:47:09 -0600 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cri.crishdesign.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - crishdesign.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cri.crishdesign.com: authenticated_id: chris@crishdesign.com --Apple-Mail=_4961E964-CAB7-414E-8522-AC0C2305A964 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Two tricks: - Roto Brush has to propagate from the Base Frame outward. Placing the = initial base frame closer to the middle instead of the start of the = clip, and/or creating multiple Base Frames, results in shorter spans = that may need to be propagated. - Once you have Segmentation Boundary you're happy with, click the = Freeze button in the lower right of the Layer Panel to pre-calculate and = store the time-consuming propagation. hope that helps - Chris ________________________________________________ Chris Meyer | Crish Design http://www.crishdesign.com On Mar 26, 2013, at 1:33 PM, Andrew Embury wrote: > I don't deny the power, but do you have any info to point to to show = some of the technique's you speak of Teddy? >=20 > - Andrew >=20 > On 2013-03-26, at 3:24 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: >=20 >> Having worked extensively with the rotobrush, if it's taking forever = you may not be using it right. I learned this through brute force trial = and error, but if you do it right even huge complex masks propagate = quickly. You just have to work in chunks and do some counter-intuitive = things. The rotobrush is already pretty amazing=20 >>=20 >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Andrew Embury = wrote: >> Has the roto brush speed increased at all? >>=20 >> - Andrew >>=20 >> On 2013-03-26, at 2:55 PM, Chris Meyer wrote: >>=20 >>> Adobe released a sneak peek at a new technology for After Effects = today, and was kind enough to give me permission to spill more of the = beans.=20 >>>=20 >>> Short version: At last! A solution aside from keying to roto hair!!! >>>=20 >>> Long version: = http://provideocoalition.com/cmg_keyframes/story/adobe-refine-edge >>>=20 >>> - Chris >>>=20 >>> ________________________________________________ >>> Chris Meyer | Crish Design >>> http://www.crishdesign.com >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> Animator & Editor >> www.teddygage.com >> Brooklyn --Apple-Mail=_4961E964-CAB7-414E-8522-AC0C2305A964 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Two tricks:

 - Roto Brush has to propagate from the Base Frame outward. Placing the initial base frame closer to the middle instead of the start of the clip, and/or creating multiple Base Frames, results in shorter spans that may need to be propagated.

 - Once you have Segmentation Boundary you're happy with, click the Freeze button in the lower right of the Layer Panel to pre-calculate and store the time-consuming propagation.

hope that helps -
Chris

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On Mar 26, 2013, at 1:33 PM, Andrew Embury wrote:

I don't deny the power, but do you have any info to point to to show some of the technique's you speak of Teddy?

- Andrew

On 2013-03-26, at 3:24 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:

Having worked extensively with the rotobrush, if it's taking forever you may not be using it right. I learned this through brute force trial and error, but if you do it right even huge complex masks propagate quickly. You just have to work in chunks and do some counter-intuitive things. The rotobrush is already pretty amazing

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Andrew Embury <aembury@gmail.com> wrote:
Has the roto brush speed increased at all?

- Andrew

On 2013-03-26, at 2:55 PM, Chris Meyer <chris@crishdesign.com> wrote:

Adobe released a sneak peek at a new technology for After Effects today, and was kind enough to give me permission to spill more of the beans. 

Short version: At last! A solution aside from keying to roto hair!!!


 - Chris

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