Return-Path: Received: from cri.crishdesign.com ([198.57.142.178] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5016356 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 19:49:26 +0100 Received: from 106-72-agavebb-nm.abq.nm.agavebb.net ([199.21.106.72]:49713 helo=[192.168.0.8]) by cri.crishdesign.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UKvWm-0001PL-Ik for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:56:52 -0600 From: Chris Meyer Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_49D44CD9-7FAD-4418-B207-D0AE2224292A" Subject: Re: [AE] Adobe Refine Edge Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:56:51 -0600 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <46E730FA-81EC-4592-BB69-99DED11905E2@crishdesign.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cri.crishdesign.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - crishdesign.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cri.crishdesign.com: authenticated_id: chris@crishdesign.com --Apple-Mail=_49D44CD9-7FAD-4418-B207-D0AE2224292A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I've not used PowerMatte, but at first glance it sounds similar to AE's = Inner/Outer Key? (Although I assume much better, knowing Marco.) = Inner/Outer key can produce surprisingly good results, but it does take = a lot of set-up with the masks, especially in getting the close enough = to the edges not to create false triggers. A big difference comes in manually animating the masks vs. the automated = edge tracking of Roto Brush (which generates the initial edge that = Refine Edge then refines). - Chris ________________________________________________ Chris Meyer | Crish Design http://www.crishdesign.com On Mar 27, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Richard Green wrote: > Sorry, wrong link, I meant the AE plug-in! >=20 > http://www.digitalfilmtools.com/powermatte/ >=20 > With this, it seems you loosely animate a garbage matte via paths and = it uses trimasks to generate the edge. Looks like very similar = technology but possibly not as fast as linking it to rotobrush >=20 > On 27 March 2013 15:26, Chris Meyer wrote: > Yes - it works on moving video, not just still images. >=20 > - Chris >=20 > ________________________________________________ > Chris Meyer | Crish Design > http://www.crishdesign.com >=20 >=20 > On Mar 27, 2013, at 7:44 AM, Richard Green wrote: >=20 >> Does it differ from this? >>=20 >> http://www.digitalfilmtools.com/powermask/ >>=20 >> Seems to use the trimask tech that is being used by that and Topaz = Remask in Photoshop >>=20 >> --=20 >> Cheers >> Rich >>=20 >> www.loopcorp.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --- > Cheers > Rich >=20 > www.loopcorp.com --Apple-Mail=_49D44CD9-7FAD-4418-B207-D0AE2224292A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 I've = not used PowerMatte, but at first glance it sounds similar to AE's = Inner/Outer Key? (Although I assume much better, knowing Marco.) = Inner/Outer key can produce surprisingly good results, but it does take = a lot of set-up with the masks, especially in getting the close enough = to the edges not to create false triggers.

A big = difference comes in manually animating the masks vs. the automated edge = tracking of Roto Brush (which generates the initial edge that Refine = Edge then refines).

 - = Chris

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On Mar 27, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Richard Green wrote:

Sorry, = wrong link, I meant the AE plug-in!


With this, it seems = you loosely animate a garbage matte via paths and it uses trimasks to = generate the edge. Looks like very similar technology but possibly not = as fast as linking it to rotobrush

On 27 March 2013 15:26, Chris Meyer <chris@crishdesign.com> = wrote:
Yes - it works on moving video, not = just still images.

 - = Chris

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http://www.crishdesign.com

On Mar 27, 2013, at 7:44 AM, = Richard Green wrote:

Does it = differ from this?


Seems to use the trimask tech that is being used by = that and Topaz Remask in Photoshop

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Cheers =




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Cheers
Rich


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