Return-Path: Received: from qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.27.243] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5016661 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 03:17:02 +0100 Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Gq3p1l00B1zF43QADqQWrV; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 02:24:30 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] ([98.245.75.227]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id GqQU1l00K4uEfTW8kqQVrW; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 02:24:29 +0000 From: David Baud Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_538FEF99-8B59-4381-B3B3-068BDE6521D8" Subject: Re: [AE] OT: ipad frame rate Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 20:24:28 -0600 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <65F495B3-EA00-4BEA-B7FE-6FCE6C2DC6E2@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20121106; t=1364437470; bh=J6FzNXRhMhLri+ZubGMdWIdZsmbHjtlUmvdRyupCguo=; h=Received:Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:To: Message-Id; b=bx6UNWTQt+DtXoiCnPZ1tYWvAnh8melfOx0/cqcXH3zwhb9tVGkdm2wPPkgfJL7q7 WvqifOXj2aDcTft6Ife0YwE3MblLy6xmedw0Ftng6j1H/qc7cIxxhhyB8Ml2GqTiiY 4PAfiEM/q4yEphMdSIOcQ/1d14bbEaz7c/gaelRKBCcBS6jMDKkqR6Wrv+Vp6kSgL+ 7D6iz7j3kJF9oXdnAQVBBGkqPtyEk3xgYSf3E/oDiKNiZJLyIDAPSsrp9HqWqloAuS t17yNiTWtpnQxnnYpmgbcv/Dau9+C0NVTY6zPnu4TMCprk/dwzNtjCa28vdeApxYtB 5PAqR/PdZ8BLA== --Apple-Mail=_538FEF99-8B59-4381-B3B3-068BDE6521D8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I find it interesting that we are back full circle to the early time of = cinematography where hand-crank cameras were the norms=85 at least at = that time you could make a conscious decision to go faster or slower, = whereas with the iPad or other devices, this control is given to the = software/hardware to keep up with the technology limitation ;-) David Baud K O S M O S P R O D U C T i O N S david@kosmos-productions.com www.kosmos-productions.com On Mar 27, 2013, at 7:58 PM, Steve Oakley wrote: > yes... and it can be a loose 24 or 30 FPS, hence the fractional frame = rates. >=20 > S >=20 > On Mar 27, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Jack Tunnicliffe = wrote: >=20 >> This is true about the frame rate dropping back from 30 to 24 or 25. = We were having this discussion today at our office where a client = shooting a documentary had several people shooting an event at night and = had several people shooting on iphones and Galaxy phones. Man, we love = these jobs where we get a bunch of mixed frame rates to deal with. >>=20 >> I did a Google search on this but not much surfaced. It seems to me = that ipads and iPhones drop back to 24 fps when lighting becomes an = issue and they need a longer exposure per frame. I'm not 100% sure about = this, but that's what I'm seeing so far on footage. >>=20 >> Jack Tunnicliffe >> Java Post Production >>=20 >>=20 >> On Mar 27, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Frank Felker wrote: >>=20 >>> I don't have an iPad, but my iPod Touch shoots 30 fps nominally, but = will drop to 24, or 25 at times, without regard to the settings. >>>=20 >>> frank felker >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On 3/27/2013 8:59 PM, James Culbertson wrote: >>>> As I understand it iDevices don't guarantee any particular frame = rate... it depends upon conditions, and up to some maximum frame rate = depending upon the device and generation. >>>>=20 >>>> Depending upon how Premiere is handling them you might want to run = them through AE first to standardize the clip frame rate to your project = frame rate. >>>>=20 >>>> James >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Mar 27, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Rick wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> I had a client send me 4 videos shot back-to-back with a first = generation ipad. They are lacking in any tech knowledge (I had to = explain ftp to them). I'm trying to work with the footage in Premiere = then going into AE to finish it. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Two clips are coming in at 24fps and two are coming in 30fps. = Mediainfo shows them at 24.06 and 28.86. >>>>>=20 >>>>> What is the default frame rate of the ipad? The only thing I could = find online is that you can change it up to 30, but I don't know if this = is default. They don't even know how to change the settings. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> =20 >>>>> Rick Emery >>>>> www.rickemery.com >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_538FEF99-8B59-4381-B3B3-068BDE6521D8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 I = find it interesting that we are back full circle to the early time of = cinematography where hand-crank cameras were the norms=85 at least at = that time you could make a conscious decision to go faster or slower, = whereas with the iPad or other devices, this control is given to the = software/hardware to keep up with the technology limitation = ;-)

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On Mar 27, 2013, at 7:58 PM, Steve Oakley wrote:

jack@javapost.ca> = wrote:

This = is true about the frame rate dropping back from 30 to 24 or 25. We were = having this discussion today at our office where a client shooting a = documentary had several people shooting an event at night and had = several people shooting on iphones and Galaxy phones. Man, we love these = jobs where we get a bunch of mixed frame rates to deal = with.

I did a Google search on this but not much = surfaced. It seems to me that ipads and iPhones drop back to 24 fps when = lighting becomes an issue and they need a longer exposure per frame. I'm = not 100% sure about this, but that's what I'm seeing so far on = footage.

Jack = Tunnicliffe
fjfelker@gmail.com> = wrote:

=20 =20
I don't have an iPad, but my iPod = Touch shoots 30 fps nominally, but will drop to 24, or 25 at times, without regard to the settings.

frank felker



On 3/27/2013 8:59 PM, James Culbertson wrote:
As I understand it iDevices don't guarantee any particular frame rate... it depends upon conditions, and up to some maximum frame rate depending upon the device and generation.

Depending upon how Premiere is handling them you might want to run them through AE first to standardize the clip frame rate to your project frame rate.

James


On Mar 27, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Rick wrote:

I had a client send me 4 videos shot back-to-back with a first generation ipad. They are lacking in any tech knowledge (I had to explain ftp to them).  I'm trying to work with the footage in Premiere then going into AE to finish it.

Two clips are coming in at 24fps and two are coming in 30fps. Mediainfo shows them at 24.06 and 28.86.

What is the default frame rate of the ipad? The only thing I could find online is that you can change it up to 30, but I don't know if this is default.  They don't = even know how to change the settings.

Thanks,
 


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