Return-Path: Received: from atl4mhob04.myregisteredsite.com ([209.17.115.42] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5021335 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 03:23:52 +0200 Received: from mail.hostingplatform.com ([10.30.71.205]) by atl4mhob04.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r321VSUf010385 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 21:31:28 -0400 Received: (qmail 2802 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2013 01:31:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.7?) (chris@chriszwar.com@60.225.197.206) by 0 with ESMTPA; 2 Apr 2013 01:31:27 -0000 From: Chris Zwar Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A440E5A3-418E-48A6-912F-FC07BD5C4FA1" Message-Id: <1625DC7B-B6DA-4B09-9719-6C2CE65C3E26@chriszwar.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Subject: Re: [AE] spill suppression Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 12:31:24 +1100 References: To: "After Effects Mail List" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) --Apple-Mail=_A440E5A3-418E-48A6-912F-FC07BD5C4FA1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks for these links, I enjoyed the videos. What a shame the native = Cinegobs plugins are Windows only, it would be nice to be able to pull a = spill-matte so easily on a Mac. -Chris On 10/03/2013, at 9:55 AM, Daniel Griffin wrote: > I've found the Green Limited by the Average of Red and Blue technique = very useful and has given me the best spill suppression results so far: >=20 > = http://ae.tutsplus.com/tutorials/workflow/advanced-spill-suppression-metho= ds/ >=20 >=20 > Daniel Griffin > www.kubikafilms.com >=20 >=20 > 2013/3/9 Chris Meyer > Many thanks, and absolutely nothing personal, but I have a client = confidentiality issue on these particular shots that I don't want to = tread anywhere near. >=20 > - Chris >=20 > ________________________________________________ > Chris Meyer | Crish Design > http://www.crishdesign.com >=20 >=20 > On Mar 9, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Andrew Embury wrote: >=20 >> I'd love to have a crack at that too Chris! >>=20 >> Cheers.=20 >>=20 >> - Andrew >>=20 >>=20 >> On 2013-03-09, at 2:13 PM, Jack Tunnicliffe wrote: >>=20 >>> Chris: >>>=20 >>> Can you send me a frame. I'd be curious if I could focus in on the = area you're talking about. Maybe a screen grab with some arrows or = pointers showing me the area as well as a frame of the original, like a = tiff. >>>=20 >>> Jack Tunnicliffe >>> Java Post Production >>> 402, 2206 Dewdney ave. >>> Regina, SK >>> Canada >>> S4R 1H3 >>> P. 306-777-0150 >>> cell. 306-536-4321 >>> www.javapost.ca >>> ______________ >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Mar 9, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Chris Meyer = wrote: >>>=20 >>>> I have found the edge decontamination of Refine Matte very useful = in some situations, but not all. The two shots causing me grief this = week have 1) a large amount of spill across the bare shoulder/upper arm = of an actress, and 2) more than half way across the shirt on the back of = an actor who is turning. Unfortunately, when I increase the = decontamination range on Refine Matte, it does something very ugly to = the color channel information - what looks like a edge pixel repeat, = instead of a simple removing of color from otherwise detailed pixels = that I wish to keep.=20 >>>>=20 >>>> - Chris >>>>=20 >>>> ________________________________________________ >>>> Chris Meyer | Crish Design >>>> http://www.crishdesign.com >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Mar 9, 2013, at 12:41 AM, Todd Kopriva wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> Check out the Refine Matte effect for the motion blur color = decontamination. >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Friday, March 8, 2013, Chris Zwar wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> I don't know if it's technically 'spill', but motion blur is the = tricky thing to deal with when keying. If the key isn't set up well = then you can end up with footage that looks like it has a spill problem = in moving areas - actually the screen is showing through = semi-transparent regions. =20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> --=20 >>>>> -------------------------------- >>>>> Todd Kopriva >>>>> 1510 E Alder St >>>>> Seattle, WA 98122 >>>>> (206)437-2296 >>>>> -------------------------------- >>>>> "Ultimately, all knowledge is self-knowledge." >>>>> - Bruce Lee >>>>=20 >>>=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_A440E5A3-418E-48A6-912F-FC07BD5C4FA1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 dagrial@gmail.com> = wrote:
I've found the Green Limited by the = Average of Red and Blue technique very useful and has given me = the best spill suppression results so = far:



Daniel Griffin
www.kubikafilms.com


2013/3/9 Chris Meyer <chris@crishdesign.com>
Many thanks, and absolutely nothing = personal, but I have a client confidentiality issue on these particular = shots that I don't want to tread anywhere near.

 - Chris

________________________________________________
Chris Meyer | Crish = Design
http://www.crishdesign.com

On Mar 9, 2013, at 12:48 PM, = Andrew Embury wrote:

I'd love to have a crack at that too = Chris!

Cheers. 

- Andrew


On 2013-03-09, at 2:13 PM, = Jack Tunnicliffe <jack@javapost.ca> = wrote:

Chris:

Can you send me a frame. I'd be curious if I could focus = in on the area you're talking about. Maybe a screen grab with some = arrows or pointers showing me the area as well as a frame of the = original, like a tiff.

Jack Tunnicliffe
Java Post Production
402, 2206 Dewdney ave.
Regina, SK
Canada
S4R 1H3
P. 306-777-0150
cell. 306-536-4321
______________
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On Mar 9, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Chris Meyer <chris@crishdesign.com> = wrote:

I have found the edge decontamination of = Refine Matte very useful in some situations, but not all. The two shots = causing me grief this week have 1) a large amount of spill across the = bare shoulder/upper arm of an actress, and 2) more than half way across = the shirt on the back of an actor who is turning. Unfortunately, when I = increase the decontamination range on Refine Matte, it does something = very ugly to the color channel information - what looks like a edge = pixel repeat, instead of a simple removing of color from otherwise = detailed pixels that I wish to keep. 

 - Chris

________________________________________________
Chris Meyer | Crish = Design
http://www.crishdesign.com

On Mar 9, 2013, at 12:41 AM, Todd Kopriva = wrote:

Check out the Refine = Matte effect for the motion blur color decontamination.

On = Friday, March 8, 2013, Chris Zwar wrote:


I don't know if it's technically 'spill', but motion blur is the tricky = thing to deal with when keying.  If the key isn't set up well then = you can end up with footage that looks like it has a spill problem in = moving areas - actually the screen is showing through semi-transparent = regions.  


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1510 E Alder St
Seattle, WA = 98122
(206)437-2296
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"Ultimately,= all knowledge is self-knowledge."
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