Return-Path: Received: from mail-wg0-f54.google.com ([74.125.82.54] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5022749 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 03:09:22 +0200 Received: by mail-wg0-f54.google.com with SMTP id a12so1047667wgh.33 for ; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 18:17:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=2+8pzWKVg/g/3i7AzEs7QB+8ZaYcAomNLOX0h9paAVI=; b=dS+A3pq8cwuJT6t0ppx9roBzb0uR6nq1qwNNZbFopGo19NQbGtontLchhE/l7VDVM+ 2t7Ez8NE7Fu3OoUiy3i5LyfAHPJsU24P8OdIa0+RFyBfpc/pN5N0+cc4+mKIr/pOJSv8 l5uK2lIs32sfXmDXQ3z8vWyDXVb7eU333Fhl57DVN4zA0V4UrY3dyYZSiq49iFe5Vlm8 5KcvoR/X1Vbjsv5RAORLQwKzodmuThkAi1lun44/M2CXeH8amOVkqfqpJLKrKcgGf10Y P2QVImO3jQSaEnyNUM2qTwbAYEbO6+UPoSWN1Tl2GBKX+8naMbkHdbz2NfIAZkT6xKAE Z0Rw== X-Received: by 10.180.92.229 with SMTP id cp5mr19255267wib.20.1364951822106; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 18:17:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: mrbills@gmail.com Received: by 10.194.21.197 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 18:16:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: J Bills Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 18:16:42 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: X4AqJgz3v9H8sC0K6t5SiOlaNW4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Adobe Refine Edge To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043c094e7e053d04d96a9cc9 --f46d043c094e7e053d04d96a9cc9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 powermatte is built into silhouette and uses trimaps - there was a siggraph white paper a few years back on this. I'd say it's a bit more stable and useful than inner/outer keyer but only works under ideal circumstances or where a high level of accuracy isn't necessary. It does take some garbage matte setup work but it's more forgiving than inner/outer. On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Chris Meyer wrote: > I've not used PowerMatte, but at first glance it sounds similar to AE's > Inner/Outer Key? (Although I assume much better, knowing Marco.) > Inner/Outer key can produce surprisingly good results, but it does take a > lot of set-up with the masks, especially in getting the close enough to the > edges not to create false triggers. > > A big difference comes in manually animating the masks vs. the automated > edge tracking of Roto Brush (which generates the initial edge that Refine > Edge then refines). > > > - Chris > > > ________________________________________________ > Chris Meyer | Crish Design > http://www.crishdesign.com > > > On Mar 27, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Richard Green wrote: > > Sorry, wrong link, I meant the AE plug-in! > > http://www.digitalfilmtools.com/powermatte/ > > With this, it seems you loosely animate a garbage matte via paths and it > uses trimasks to generate the edge. Looks like very similar technology but > possibly not as fast as linking it to rotobrush > > On 27 March 2013 15:26, Chris Meyer wrote: > >> Yes - it works on moving video, not just still images. >> >> - Chris >> >> ________________________________________________ >> Chris Meyer | Crish Design >> http://www.crishdesign.com >> >> >> On Mar 27, 2013, at 7:44 AM, Richard Green wrote: >> >> Does it differ from this? >> >> http://www.digitalfilmtools.com/powermask/ >> >> Seems to use the trimask tech that is being used by that and Topaz Remask >> in Photoshop >> >> -- >> Cheers >> Rich >> >> www.loopcorp.com >> >> >> > > > --- > Cheers > Rich > > www.loopcorp.com > > > --f46d043c094e7e053d04d96a9cc9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
powermatte is built into silhouette and uses trimaps - the= re was a siggraph white paper a few years back on this. =A0I'd say it&#= 39;s a bit more stable and useful than inner/outer keyer but only works und= er ideal circumstances or where a high level of accuracy isn't necessar= y. =A0It does take some garbage matte setup work but it's more forgivin= g than inner/outer.


On Wed, Mar 2= 7, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Chris Meyer <chris@crishdesign.com>= wrote:
I've= not used PowerMatte, but at first glance it sounds similar to AE's Inn= er/Outer Key? (Although I assume much better, knowing Marco.) Inner/Outer k= ey can produce surprisingly good results, but it does take a lot of set-up = with the masks, especially in getting the close enough to the edges not to = create false triggers.

A big difference comes in manually animating the masks vs. t= he automated edge tracking of Roto Brush (which generates the initial edge = that Refine Edge then refines).


=A0- Chris


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Chris Meyer | Crish Des= ign
http://www.= crishdesign.com

On Mar 27, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Ric= hard Green wrote:

Sorry, wrong link, I m= eant the AE plug-in!


With this, it seems you loosely animate a garbage matte= via paths and it uses trimasks to generate the edge. Looks like very simil= ar technology but possibly not as fast as linking it to rotobrush

On 27 March 2013 15:26, Chris Meyer <ch= ris@crishdesign.com> wrote:
Yes - it works on moving video, not jus= t still images.

=A0- Chris

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Chris Meyer | Crish Des= ign
http://www= .crishdesign.com

On Mar 27, 2013, at 7:44 AM, Richard Green wr= ote:

Does it differ from this?


Seems to use the trimask tech that is being used by tha= t and Topaz Remask in Photoshop

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Cheers




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Cheers
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