Return-Path: Received: from mail-qc0-f181.google.com ([209.85.216.181] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5041918 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 20:06:27 +0200 Received: by mail-qc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id a22so843391qcs.26 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 11:14:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=XAfRfCB+MmAeMBmGR5raDc2dcPERO1tUOzObsAhwE6g=; b=LHL8GKC1n6BLi6Rnrae9aKpmz1BDvVFDbud5STzfxrKfkL/1HcYKrD9XQAFCaUhRvO yOtQ8ct7LN4lPE4CqLbU+de+7B4XAtDyIYGI14WestYUfsk7KT25X+GpnIX5CH+Quww4 Xie2q/+BXAVXKcNbUqMMnFBDCBnGKdGgbdDK4Ik+6iT44BvrE3+BgYBT3iCMMSNe4AgY OevtejXQDYe/4KyFavDlTTwr5OmtwSlvkCYUzN5UOlLxAsigI3Amue+KjPCfRFvRffpG Fivcznxv59nTASIAKFTcUJCtPD7/Ol882/ooy6w+OVvSKuIEcLlIWwENYGZYsjRqJHuj X4qg== X-Received: by 10.224.222.14 with SMTP id ie14mr7642290qab.34.1366222474159; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 11:14:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.49.127.107 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 11:13:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Teddy Gage Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:13:53 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Camcorder recommendations To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3074b45c41ac3f04da9275d4 --20cf3074b45c41ac3f04da9275d4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What is your budget for this camera? What is your priority for the hi-speed mode? While there are a few new cameras with optional hi-speed mode, I'd suggest that unless you are looking for true 400-1000 fps hispeed, you remove that from the list because it really limits your options. The things you can do with AE and twixtor / reel smart motion blur will cover the gap, as long as the camera does decent 60p at 1080. If you really need decent hi-speed footage at those framerates, you are probably better off renting a solution than owning a camera with limited uses. That being said, the casio Excilim hi-speed series is really the only camera system in the prosumer price range that does good slow-mo. And even then you need tons of light and accepting cropped HD frames for 600 fps+. The prosumer defacto "standard" right now is the Canon 5D mark III which will run you $2,500 - 4000 depending on lenses and options. I personally own a Nikon d5100 for personal still photography, but the video is quite excellent with a good prime. The autofocus is pretty good and you're looking at under $1k For handheld video I own a canon Vixia HF100, because it's lightweight, has excellent compression, good low light performance and amazing autofocus. You can find it used for under $500, which is really great. It is perfect for shooting concerts and has all the features you requested minus the hispeed. However it does use .mxf format which can be a pain to convert. On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) < emile@foryourhead.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking for a camera with as many as possible of the below features. > Currently using a Lumix LX 7, which does surprisingly well for a $400 > camera mainly designed for stills/ > > 1. Compact > 2. Tapeless > 3. 1080 24p. 30 p. (60 i optional) > 4. Better (i.e. less) compression than the 34:1 of my Lumix LX - 7. > 5. Mac- compatible software. > 6. No 4 gig file limit. > 7. High speed shooting for slow mo. > 8. Good optics -- ideally comparable with Lumix > 9. Better zoom ratio than LX 7 > 10. Ideally can shoot high quality 5 MP or better stills. > 11. Long shutter speed shooting for in camera blurs > 12. Good low light performance. > > My Lumix LX 7 has all but 4, 5, 6, 7, 9 > > Thanks. > -- > -- Emile > > If you can walk, you can surely DANCE > > My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/** > 22231918@N06/collections/**72157603627170351/ > > My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/**Tobenfeld > > > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > -- Animator & Editor www.teddygage.com Brooklyn --20cf3074b45c41ac3f04da9275d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What is your budget for this camera? What i= s your priority for the hi-speed mode? While there are a few new cameras wi= th optional hi-speed mode, I'd suggest that unless you are looking for = true 400-1000 fps hispeed, you remove that from the list because it really = limits your options. The things you can do with AE and twixtor / reel smart= motion blur will cover the gap, as long as the camera does decent 60p at 1= 080.

If you really need decent hi-speed footage at those framerates, y= ou are probably better off renting a solution than owning a camera with lim= ited uses. That being said, the casio Excilim hi-speed series is really the= only camera system in the prosumer price range that does good slow-mo. And= even then you need tons of light and accepting cropped HD frames for 600 f= ps+.

The prosumer defacto "standard" right now is the Canon = 5D mark III which will run you $2,500 - 4000 depending on lenses and option= s. I personally own a Nikon d5100 for personal still photography, but the v= ideo is quite excellent with a good prime. The autofocus is pretty good and= you're looking at under $1k

For handheld video I own a canon Vixia HF100, because it's li= ghtweight, has excellent compression, good low light performance and amazin= g autofocus. You can find it used for under $500, which is really great. It= is perfect for shooting concerts and has all the features you requested mi= nus the hispeed. However it does use .mxf format which can be a pain to con= vert.


On Wed,= Apr 17, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) &= lt;emile@foryour= head.com> wrote:
Hi,

I'm looking for a camera with as many as possible of the below features= . Currently using a Lumix LX 7, which does surprisingly well for a $400 cam= era mainly designed for stills/

1. =A0 =A0 =A0Compact
2. =A0 =A0 =A0Tapeless
3. =A0 =A0 =A01080 24p. 30 p. (60 i optional)
4. =A0 =A0 =A0Better (i.e. less) =A0compression than the 34:1 of my Lumix = =A0LX - 7.
5. =A0 =A0 =A0Mac- compatible software.
6. =A0 =A0 =A0No 4 gig file limit.
7. =A0 =A0 =A0High speed shooting for slow mo.
8. =A0 =A0 =A0Good optics -- ideally comparable with Lumix
9. =A0 =A0 =A0Better zoom ratio than LX 7
10. =A0 =A0 Ideally can shoot high quality 5 MP or better stills.
11. =A0 =A0 Long shutter speed shooting for in camera blurs
12. =A0 =A0 Good low light performance.

My Lumix LX 7 has all but 4, 5, 6, 7, 9

Thanks.
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-- Emile

If you can walk, you can surely DANCE

My photography can be viewed at http://www.flic= kr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/=

My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld




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