Mailing List AE-List@media-motion.tv ? Message #48604
From: Chris Zwar <chris@chriszwar.com>
Subject: Re: [AE] Keying and other things
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 16:07:49 +1000
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
You basically learn from difficult keys, sometimes there's no easy solution.  One thing to look at is pre-processing your footage before keying.  In many cases noise reduction or grain removal can have dramatic results on your output.  The standard AE grain removal plugin can be bit coarse when it comes to temporal smoothing, but it's better than nothing.  Grain / noise management is really important for good clean keys.

Apart from grain removal, for keylight you can try doing a hue shift to increase the difference between the green channel and the red and blue channels.  This will give you a different result, but not necessarily a better result.  Keylight is a difference keyer - it looks at the difference between the green channel and the red / blue channels.  Greenscreens are very rarely a purely 'digital' green - most greens have a lot of red in them and are actually quite yellow.  Apply the hue / sat filter, and then apply the levels filter so you get a histogram.  You should be able to see three clear peaks in the histogram for red / green / blue.  Adjusting the hue will move these peaks, and shifting the hue by a few degrees will move the red peak further away from the green, and start moving the blue closer (or vice versa).  Find a value that puts the most difference between the green and the red/blue channels.  In SOME cases this will give you a better result with fine edge detail such as hair.  I've done a few side-by-side comparisons with hue shifted green screens and they've been better about half the time.  If you are hue-shifting by a large amount you'll probably want to use the keyed layer as an alpha matte for the original source.

-Chris

On 20/04/2013, at 2:10 PM, Jonathan <sureal@charter.net> wrote:

Good day to all.

I've been using Keylight to do some green screen work and, basically starting from scratch, went through a number of tutorials, including three from The Foundry for Nuke but which are applicable to After Effects. All the tutorials, however, are general and don't deal much with pulling difficult keys, such as shots of little girls with frizzy hair. I've gone about as far as I can go with what I've learned and my results aren't very good: the hair in the transparent areas chatters like crazy. Fortunately I'm scaling from full HD down to 720 X 405 so some of the noise becomes a minor problem. However, there is one shot that is really not acceptable.

I'm using a pre-comped layer to create a matte for the same layer below it, trying everything I can but still missing it. I realize this may be difficult to answer without seeing the project, but any tips anyone might want to offer would be much appreciated. (CS 6, Keylight 1.2) Thanks in advance.

Jonathan


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