Return-Path: Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.9] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5049895 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:02:02 +0200 Received: from Elliot-Steeles-iMac.local (p579AB78F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [87.154.183.143]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MB6Ce-1UL5Ba1F80-009xVR; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:10:23 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.20.0.090605 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:09:25 +0200 Subject: Re: [AE] GH 3 lens recommendations Re: [AE] Camcorder recommendations From: Elliot Steele To: After List Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [AE] GH 3 lens recommendations Re: [AE] Camcorder recommendations Thread-Index: Ac5A/bUgEIoRn3wrYkWBEP0Es8EKaQ== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3449668222_68290080" X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:hNUewDdsL71hvx0qlbwiEe18dOO2Bi8yt0UkqF/AePA mok1b0Frln4PKxrInHLDR1KepXSN9qNzSwvDeT+qugg06Rzl9J tUgkakNwVbGCm7Rr0RGzPARMxYdh/HfwYZJnqUrrRwCgH7HCWE J3ZUC1qsu4Qc7fUUw/O23AZ9T2YUYoTWLqs9xHQRpM8zuLRdkF jJjqNQNCsHWkLAeDiE3HzEfpuz53TsVhPkP2J601EPlY1qqCXl dNCUInjK2q7ZP/u8TA2VHNrCwWzfnnzRc4FJ04jPoALsD21397 S+Nk476zqO2H5Nbjp2T7TQRg3eha6xN8Cv93cMD/A60We/avY8 ZWORTNTSneHMZQvaGhyg7EkHKbPfWzUNol+wXDQtA > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3449668222_68290080 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable It depends what you want to do with it. Without a proper rig (focus etc), working with zooms will be hit and miss a= t best. Anyway, the 3 zooms which are most interesting are: Panasonic 7-14mm f4 Panasonic 12-35mm f2.8 Panasonic 35-100mm f2.8 All 3 are expensive but less than the full frame equivalents. As far as primes are concerned I would recommend: Panasonic 25mm f1.4 Olympus 45mm f1.8 <- a real bargain Olympus 75mm f1.8 <- stunning The panny 20mm f1.7 is good but a little slow in some situations. Don=B9t forget you have to double the focal length to get the equivalent on a 35mm camera and that the GH3 is probably 1-2 stops noisier than the full frame cameras (Nikon D800, Canon 5Dmk3). In terms of light gathering/exposure the m43 lenses perform the same as full frame ones. Elliot Am 4/24/13 4:30 PM schrieb "Bruce Tovsky" unter : > hey emile! > i'm looking at the same camera, and this lens stood out from the pack: > Panasonic 35-100mm f2.8 Lumix G Vario Zoom > a bit pricey, but spend on the lens as they say... > best > b >=20 > On Apr 24, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) wrote: >=20 >> Hi. >>=20 >> I am thinking about the GH3 --- if I go that route, what lenses do you >> recommend? >>=20 >> At 12:17 PM -0600 4/17/13, Jack Tunnicliffe wrote: >>> Take a look at the Panasonic Lumix GH3. It now records 72 Mbit h264 (in= tra >>> frame) that is very lossless. I like shooting 24p but it will shoot 60f= ps, >>> even at this data rate. I haven't tried the slow motion feature on top = of >>> 60fps, but I would imagine you can push it further as there is a slow m= otion >>> feature. I've only had the camera a week but am super impressed by the >>> quality. Also does 16MP stills. You can shoot stills at the same time a= s you >>> are shooting video without interrupting the video recording. >>>=20 >>> Records on an SD card so slap it right into your computer and start usi= ng >>> off the SD card or copy to the hard drive and start using without any >>> transcoding.=20 >>>=20 >>> Jack Tunnicliffe >>>=20 >>> Java Post Production >>>=20 >>> 402, 2206 Dewdney ave. >>>=20 >>> Regina, SK >>>=20 >>> Canada >>>=20 >>> S4R 1H3 >>>=20 >>> P. 306-777-0150 >>>=20 >>> cell. 306-536-4321 >>>=20 >>> www.javapost.ca >>>=20 >>> ______________ >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Apr 17, 2013, at 11:43 AM, "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" >>> <emile@foryourhead.com> wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Hi, >>>>=20 >>>> I'm looking for a camera with as many as possible of the below feature= s. >>>> Currently using a Lumix LX 7, which does surprisingly well for a $400 >>>> camera mainly designed for stills/ >>>>=20 >>>> 1. Compact >>>> 2. Tapeless >>>> 3. 1080 24p. 30 p. (60 i optional) >>>> 4. Better (i.e. less) compression than the 34:1 of my Lumix LX - 7. >>>> 5. Mac- compatible software. >>>> 6. No 4 gig file limit. >>>> 7. High speed shooting for slow mo. >>>> 8. Good optics -- ideally comparable with Lumix >>>> 9. Better zoom ratio than LX 7 >>>> 10. Ideally can shoot high quality 5 MP or better stills. >>>> 11. Long shutter speed shooting for in camera blurs >>>> 12. Good low light performance. >>>>=20 >>>> My Lumix LX 7 has all but 4, 5, 6, 7, 9 >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks. >>>> -- >>>> -- Emile >>>>=20 >>>> If you can walk, you can surely DANCE >>>>=20 >>>> My photography can be viewed at >>>> h >>>> ttp://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351= / >>>>=20 >>>> My videos can be viewed at >>>> http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> +---End of message---+ >>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>> <ae-list-off@media-motion.tv> >>=20 --B_3449668222_68290080 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [AE] GH 3 lens recommendations Re: [AE] Camcorder recommendation= s It depends what you want to do with it.

Without a proper rig (focus etc), working with zooms will be hit and miss a= t best.

Anyway, the 3 zooms which are most interesting are:

Panasonic 7-14mm f4
Panasonic 12-35mm f2.8
Panasonic 35-100mm f2.8

All 3 are expensive but less than the full frame equivalents.

As far as primes are concerned I would recommend:

Panasonic 25mm f1.4
Olympus 45mm f1.8  <- a real bargain
Olympus 75mm f1.8  <- stunning

The panny 20mm f1.7 is good but a little slow in some situations.

Don’t forget you have to double the focal length to get the equivalen= t on a 35mm camera and that the GH3 is probably 1-2 stops noisier than the f= ull frame cameras (Nikon D800, Canon 5Dmk3). In terms of light gathering/exp= osure the m43 lenses perform the same as full frame ones.

Elliot








Am 4/24/13 4:30 PM schrieb "Bruce Tovsky" unter <bruce@skeletonhome.com>:

<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>hey emile!
i'm looking at the same camera, and this lens stood out from the pack: Pana= sonic 35-100mm f2.8 Lumix G Vario Zoom
a bit pricey,= but spend on the lens as they say...
best
b

On Apr 24, 2013, at = 9:59 AM, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) wrote:

Hi.

I am thinking about the GH3 --- if I go that route, what lenses do you reco= mmend?

At 12:17 PM -0600 4/17/13, Jack Tunnicliffe wrote:
Take a look at the Panasonic Lumix GH3. It now r= ecords 72 Mbit h264 (intra frame) that is very lossless. I like shooting 24p= but it will shoot 60fps, even at this data rate. I haven't tried the slow m= otion feature on top of 60fps, but I would imagine you can push it further a= s there is a slow motion feature. I've only had the camera a week but am sup= er impressed by the quality. Also does 16MP stills. You can shoot stills at = the same time as you are shooting video without interrupting the video recor= ding.

Records on an SD card so slap it right into your computer and start using o= ff the SD card or copy to the hard drive and start using without any transco= ding.

Jack Tunnicliffe

Java Post Production

402, 2206 Dewdney ave.

Regina, SK

Canada

S4R 1H3

P. 306-777-0150

cell. 306-536-4321

<http://www.javapost= .ca>www.javapost.ca

______________




On Apr 17, 2013, at 11:43 AM, "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" <= ;<mailto:= emile@foryourhead.com>emile@foryourhead.com> wrote:

Hi,

I'm looking for a camera with as many as possible of the below features. Cu= rrently using a Lumix LX 7, which does surprisingly well for a $400 camera m= ainly designed for stills/

1. Compact
2. Tapeless
3. 1080 24p. 30 p. (60 i optional)
4. Better (i.e. less)  compression than the 34:1 of my Lumix  LX = - 7.
5. Mac- compatible software.
6. No 4 gig file limit.
7. High speed shooting for slow mo.
8. Good optics -- ideally comparable with Lumix
9. Better zoom ratio than LX 7
10. Ideally can shoot high quality 5 MP or better stills.
11. Long shutter speed shooting for in camera blurs
12. Good low light performance.

My Lumix LX 7 has all but 4, 5, 6, 7, 9

Thanks.
--
-- Emile

If you can walk, you can surely DANCE

My photography can be viewed at <http://www.flickr.com/photos/222= 31918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/>http://www.flickr.com/photos/222= 31918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/

My videos can be viewed at <http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld>http:= //www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld




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