Return-Path: Received: from nk11p03mm-asmtp002.mac.com ([17.158.232.237] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5052436 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 19:34:26 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.68] ([99.152.153.100]) by nk11p03mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MLV00GSJIJELQ80@nk11p03mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 17:42:51 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-04-26_05:2013-04-26,2013-04-26,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1302030000 definitions=main-1304260150 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Subject: Re: [AE] Creative Cloud Updaters don't work From: Jim Curtis In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:42:49 -0500 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <0939ED7D-7466-473A-80C6-7575A2C1C638@me.com> References: To: After Effects Mail List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) I do a fair amount of work in DAWs, and my policy is to not buy anything = that requires iLok. =20 There is an extravaganza of audio plugs in existence. None of them that = require iLok are must-haves. Not even the exalted Altiverb or anything = Waves makes. IMO. iLok exists as a fat smelly low paid security guard with a bad attitude = for honest people to use the products they purchased honestly. I don't = see why anybody would support such a model. =20 I buy the software I use, and to ask me to pay an additional fee and = jump additional hoops just to have access to it is offensive. I was fine with the Ae dongles. They never failed me. I did have an = Avid dongle go bad once, but it was a PACE product. No surprise there. On Apr 26, 2013, at 12:26 PM, adam mercado wrote: > ugh, iLok. Had to use them with Waves audio VSTs. Music software = licensing is SO archaic. I just thank the heavens the AE dongle is a = thing of the past, and wish the music software companies would catch up. = It seems Waves finally are, as their V9 edition uses a soft licensing = tool and has got rid of iLok at last >=20 >=20 >=20 > Adam Mercado > Influxx Media Production > Fullerton, CA >=20 > Moving Images. For Business > 714=B0928=B09896 > http://www.influxx.com > http://www.twitter.com/influxx > http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx > http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive > http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Apr 25, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: >=20 >> Yes, due to Murphy's Law, it's likely to go haywire at the worst = possible moment. >>=20 >> Have you heard this joke of a service that Pace / iLok offers called = "Zero Downtime?" When you read the fine print, you realize that zero = doesn't mean what it used to. It means something decidedly non-zero. I = hate that company. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Apr 25, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Robert W. Walker wrote: >>=20 >>> This is the sort of thing that scares the crap out of me with regard = to >>> Cloud. >>>=20 >>> Robert W. Walker >>> Los Angeles >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>> Subject: Re: [AE] Creative Cloud Updaters don't work >>>> From: Jim Curtis >>>> Date: Thu, April 25, 2013 2:58 pm >>>> To: "After Effects Mail List" >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> I can't help, but I can attest that the cleaner tool and uninstall = functions leave plenty of Adobe files on your system. In the past, when = I had just one CS suite installed, and ran uninstall and the cleaner = scripts, I'd do an EasyFind for "Adobe," and would locate over 30 files = with "adobe" in the name. >>>>=20 >>>> And I would expect that authorization files don't have "adobe" in = the name, and likely invisible, to make them harder to crack. >>>>=20 >>>> I think that's why a fresh OS install first is the only way to do a = clean install of the apps. You also should get the thirty day trial = reset on a clean OS install. That may at least allow you to finish your = work until you get your authorization issues sussed. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Daniel Monro wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> Hey Benny, >>>>>=20 >>>>> I went from C3 to CS6 on this machine, with iterations of all = builds. I had those same remnants that the adobe cleaner didn't get, = too. I gathered them up manually and burned them to a disc and then = deleted all of them. Never gave me trouble and I've never needed that = disc.... >>>>>=20 >>>>> For what its worth. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Good luck, >>>>> D >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> On ThursdayApr 252013, at 11:50 AM, Benny Christensen = wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> I have bits of Adobe stuff in my Library going back to CS3. Who = starts every update with a virgin system and hard drive? I still have = working versions of CS5.5 apps because until recently I CS6 wouldn't run = all of the plugins I have. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I would give the error codes, but I have already read the dozens = of related threads on the Adobe and Google search sites. Some of these = errors go back to CS5 updates. None of them have provided a cure beyond = erasing everything and starting over, which still doesn't work. That = just results in a different error code. Plus, it takes forever to = download and install all this stuff, and I have a dual T1 connection. = FOREVER. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I have tried this on a fairly new Macbook Pro and my main MacPro = computer. Same deal. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Look, I am no fan of the cloud because of exactly this kind of = BS. Adobe isn't doing me any favors. I don't owe them anything. They = sell (rent) me tools and I use them to make money. When their delivery = mechanism is as buggy as this, they deserve to answer for it. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I've been using Photoshop & After Effects since the early 90's. = If there was a better alternative I would use them and forget about = Adobe. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Extremely frustrated today. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Benny Christensen >>>>>> Producers Playhouse >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Steve Oakley wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> you ran the clean up script set to scorched earth mode ? >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> w/o getting into the particulars when I was doing a lot of = installs / uninstalls on a machine and it got wonky, that always worked. = did you try running it twice ? >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> well if the clean up script isn't working... >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> try doing a finder search for CS5, CS5.5 and CS6 and turn on ( = hit plus sign ) System Files are included >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> this will turn up any last stray bits of the installs, drag them = off to the trash and empty. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> a lot of those files are in System HD/library/application = support/Adobe and users/your user name/library/application support and = user prefs folder. if library folders aren't visible, google how to = enable their visibility. its a single command line thing to copy and = paste to enable them in 10.8 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> another question - where the apps install onto the system drive = ? or another location ? and do you possibly have a dual boot setup ? >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> S >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Benny Christensen = wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Did that. Doesn't work. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Benny Christensen >>>>>>>> Producers Playhouse >>>>>>>> Oklahoma City >>>>>>>> 405-858-0700 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> "To be is to do"--Socrates >>>>>>>> "To do is to be"--Jean-Paul Sartre >>>>>>>> "Do be do be do"--Frank Sinatra >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:08 AM, Steve Oakley wrote: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> you can't just trash your apps. they have to be properly = uninstalled because the uninstall process updates local housekeeping = files on the apps status and removes a lot of other files. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> google "adobe cleanup script" >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> go get it. run it and follow the in app directions. this = removes not just the apps, but the housekeeping files too. consider it = the nukular deinstall. then reinstall apps. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> honestly with the local .DMG install file its pretty fast and = painless, especially with SSD :) >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> if you had CS6 installed from DVD / .DMG on the machine and = switched to cloud ... lets just say sometimes @!#t happens and the = clean up script should get you going. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> the cloud installers do really work. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> S >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Benny Christensen = wrote: >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> I have all over this for the past few (wasted) days since = signing up for the Creative Cloud. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> None of the updaters work. NONE OF THEM WORK!!!! >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> There are postings all over describing the errors and the = best Adobe can come up with is to trash all my apps and start over. Are = you kidding me? >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> I accidentally did that and the updaters still don't work. = THEY STILL DON"T WORK!! >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> If it is not ready for the real world they shouldn't be = trying to force it down our throats. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> I'm ranting because this is wasting way too much of my time. = AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!! >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Benny Christensen >>>>>>>>>> Producers Playhouse >>>>>>>>>> Oklahoma City >>>>>>>>>> +---End of message---+ >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to = >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> +---End of message---+ >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to = >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> +---End of message---+ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to = >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> +---End of message---+ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> +---End of message---+ >>>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> +---End of message---+ >>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> +---End of message---+ >>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>=20 >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>=20 >>=20 >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >=20 >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to