Return-Path: Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com ([17.158.236.236] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5055947 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 23:51:20 +0200 Received: from 66.49.40.101.nw.nuvox.net (66.49.40.101.nw.nuvox.net [66.49.40.101]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MM300JRZ93OWGC0@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 21:59:52 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-04-30_10:2013-04-30,2013-04-30,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1302030000 definitions=main-1304300244 Subject: Re: [AE] Creative Cloud Updaters don't work MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_16C2A81F-86C4-44F5-B059-5F04CACA52D4" From: Benny Christensen In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 16:59:50 -0500 Message-id: <0E616F5E-2956-429B-B059-0647CE02E747@me.com> References: To: After Effects Mail List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) --Apple-Mail=_16C2A81F-86C4-44F5-B059-5F04CACA52D4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Finally, all of the apps are installed, even the ones I will never use. I have spent more hours getting it to work than anyone needs to spend. = Eight days actually. It is much faster to use the browser and download the updates than it is = to use the Adobe Application Manager. But Creative Cloud won't let you = do that with every app and it takes forever to install the apps. So no, = it is not my connection. TIP: For those of you who haven't noticed - there are two Library = folders in the Mac OS. (I knew that). In Mac 10.7 and above the Library = folder in the User folder is hidden. To see it you have to hold down the = Option key while opening the Go menu where it will be revealed. So I uninstalled al of my old Adobe Apps and then I deleted every Adobe = preference and Application Support App that was dated before 2012 in = both Library folders.=20 Another tip - make sure to check because the Uninstall programs do a = very poor job of actually uninstalling everything. Sure the Cleaner App = will nuke your programs, but there are still bits and pieces that it = misses. After all that and a wasted hour and half with Adobe Tech Support. I = just worked through it myself - Goodbye Saturday! Then I wasted more time reading Tech Support documents. Getting usable = info from them is like trying to find the key to unlocking a dead = language. There are plenty of complaints and enquiries, but very few = actual solutions. I don't know if it is an Air problem or a Flash = problem or maybe the instal order matters or maybe it is just poor = programming. So here's what I have deduced. Please bear in mind that I am not a = programmer and I reserve the right to be completely wrong.=20 The AAM is badly, deeply flawed. Sometimes, I would load it and it would = say that I had certain apps that needed to be installed and others that = needed updates. Then I would delete any AAM support files I could find = in the Application Support and Preference folders including the OOBE = folders. When I would run it again until nothing needed updates.=20 My clue to trash stuff was that if it said an app needed updating and = then I got an error when I tried to update it, I would just stop, trash = AAM prefs, the OOBE and anything else that looked related to the AAM and = try again. Or if an install errored out, I would do the same thing. What I found is that if I did this enough times, eventually everything = installed. The last app I installed was Acrobat which stubbornly refused to = install. Then the eula would come up blank. Finally, I found something = that suggested that to see the eula, you first had to Deactivate another = app in the Creative Cloud Suite. I chose Dreamweaver and it worked. Now = I just need to reactivate Dreamweaver and I think it all will work. Wow, there's nothing like a straightforward solution. Like I said, I'm no programmer, but surely they can run a conflict = catcher to delete outdated files that might conflict with the installs. Anyway, I appear to be working and so I will move forward wondering how = long it will take to get the bad taste out of mouth. Benny Christensen Producers Playhouse Oklahoma City 405-858-0700 "Every day you may make progress. Every step may be fruitful. Yet there = will stretch out before you an ever-lengthening, ever-ascending, = ever-improving path. You know you will never get to the end of the = journey. But this, so far from discouraging, only adds to the joy and = glory of the climb." - Sir Winston Churchill On Apr 26, 2013, at 3:50 PM, Dean Forss wrote: > I hear you Jim on this one but alas, I have no choice. Ivory uses the = damn iLok and when my iLok key failed I had to buy another one. I got a = hold of Synthogy and told them they were crazy to go with iLok when they = had the worlds best piano and we have to rely on antiquated and worst = yet - unreliable licensing schemes. They said they were reviewing the = options and gave me a two week code while I waited for a new iLok to = arrive. Painful... >=20 > Dean >=20 > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: > I do a fair amount of work in DAWs, and my policy is to not buy = anything that requires iLok. >=20 > There is an extravaganza of audio plugs in existence. None of them = that require iLok are must-haves. Not even the exalted Altiverb or = anything Waves makes. IMO. >=20 > iLok exists as a fat smelly low paid security guard with a bad = attitude for honest people to use the products they purchased honestly. = I don't see why anybody would support such a model. >=20 > I buy the software I use, and to ask me to pay an additional fee and = jump additional hoops just to have access to it is offensive. >=20 > I was fine with the Ae dongles. They never failed me. I did have an = Avid dongle go bad once, but it was a PACE product. No surprise there. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Apr 26, 2013, at 12:26 PM, adam mercado wrote: >=20 > > ugh, iLok. Had to use them with Waves audio VSTs. Music software = licensing is SO archaic. I just thank the heavens the AE dongle is a = thing of the past, and wish the music software companies would catch up. = It seems Waves finally are, as their V9 edition uses a soft licensing = tool and has got rid of iLok at last > > > > > > > > Adam Mercado > > Influxx Media Production > > Fullerton, CA > > > > Moving Images. For Business > > 714=B0928=B09896 > > http://www.influxx.com > > http://www.twitter.com/influxx > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx > > http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 25, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: > > > >> Yes, due to Murphy's Law, it's likely to go haywire at the worst = possible moment. > >> > >> Have you heard this joke of a service that Pace / iLok offers = called "Zero Downtime?" When you read the fine print, you realize that = zero doesn't mean what it used to. It means something decidedly = non-zero. I hate that company. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Apr 25, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Robert W. Walker wrote: > >> > >>> This is the sort of thing that scares the crap out of me with = regard to > >>> Cloud. > >>> > >>> Robert W. Walker > >>> Los Angeles > >>> > >>> > >>>> -------- Original Message -------- > >>>> Subject: Re: [AE] Creative Cloud Updaters don't work > >>>> From: Jim Curtis > >>>> Date: Thu, April 25, 2013 2:58 pm > >>>> To: "After Effects Mail List" > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I can't help, but I can attest that the cleaner tool and = uninstall functions leave plenty of Adobe files on your system. In the = past, when I had just one CS suite installed, and ran uninstall and the = cleaner scripts, I'd do an EasyFind for "Adobe," and would locate over = 30 files with "adobe" in the name. > >>>> > >>>> And I would expect that authorization files don't have "adobe" in = the name, and likely invisible, to make them harder to crack. > >>>> > >>>> I think that's why a fresh OS install first is the only way to do = a clean install of the apps. You also should get the thirty day trial = reset on a clean OS install. That may at least allow you to finish your = work until you get your authorization issues sussed. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Daniel Monro wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hey Benny, > >>>>> > >>>>> I went from C3 to CS6 on this machine, with iterations of all = builds. I had those same remnants that the adobe cleaner didn't get, = too. I gathered them up manually and burned them to a disc and then = deleted all of them. Never gave me trouble and I've never needed that = disc.... > >>>>> > >>>>> For what its worth. > >>>>> > >>>>> Good luck, > >>>>> D > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On ThursdayApr 252013, at 11:50 AM, Benny Christensen = wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I have bits of Adobe stuff in my Library going back to CS3. Who = starts every update with a virgin system and hard drive? I still have = working versions of CS5.5 apps because until recently I CS6 wouldn't run = all of the plugins I have. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I would give the error codes, but I have already read the = dozens of related threads on the Adobe and Google search sites. Some of = these errors go back to CS5 updates. None of them have provided a cure = beyond erasing everything and starting over, which still doesn't work. = That just results in a different error code. Plus, it takes forever to = download and install all this stuff, and I have a dual T1 connection. = FOREVER. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I have tried this on a fairly new Macbook Pro and my main = MacPro computer. Same deal. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Look, I am no fan of the cloud because of exactly this kind of = BS. Adobe isn't doing me any favors. I don't owe them anything. They = sell (rent) me tools and I use them to make money. When their delivery = mechanism is as buggy as this, they deserve to answer for it. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I've been using Photoshop & After Effects since the early 90's. = If there was a better alternative I would use them and forget about = Adobe. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Extremely frustrated today. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Benny Christensen > >>>>>> Producers Playhouse > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Steve Oakley wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> you ran the clean up script set to scorched earth mode ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> w/o getting into the particulars when I was doing a lot of = installs / uninstalls on a machine and it got wonky, that always worked. = did you try running it twice ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> well if the clean up script isn't working... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> try doing a finder search for CS5, CS5.5 and CS6 and turn on = ( hit plus sign ) System Files are included > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> this will turn up any last stray bits of the installs, drag = them off to the trash and empty. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> a lot of those files are in System HD/library/application = support/Adobe and users/your user name/library/application support and = user prefs folder. if library folders aren't visible, google how to = enable their visibility. its a single command line thing to copy and = paste to enable them in 10.8 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> another question - where the apps install onto the system = drive ? or another location ? and do you possibly have a dual boot = setup ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> S > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Benny Christensen = wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Did that. Doesn't work. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Benny Christensen > >>>>>>>> Producers Playhouse > >>>>>>>> Oklahoma City > >>>>>>>> 405-858-0700 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> "To be is to do"--Socrates > >>>>>>>> "To do is to be"--Jean-Paul Sartre > >>>>>>>> "Do be do be do"--Frank Sinatra > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:08 AM, Steve Oakley wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> you can't just trash your apps. they have to be properly = uninstalled because the uninstall process updates local housekeeping = files on the apps status and removes a lot of other files. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> google "adobe cleanup script" > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> go get it. run it and follow the in app directions. this = removes not just the apps, but the housekeeping files too. consider it = the nukular deinstall. then reinstall apps. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> honestly with the local .DMG install file its pretty fast = and painless, especially with SSD :) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> if you had CS6 installed from DVD / .DMG on the machine and = switched to cloud ... lets just say sometimes @!#t happens and the = clean up script should get you going. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> the cloud installers do really work. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> S > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Benny Christensen = wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have all over this for the past few (wasted) days since = signing up for the Creative Cloud. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> None of the updaters work. 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Anyway, I = appear to be working and so I will move forward wondering how long it = will take to get the bad taste out of = mouth.

Benny = Christensen
Producers Playhouse
Oklahoma = City
405-858-0700
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"Every = day you may make progress. Every step may be fruitful. Yet there will = stretch out before you an ever-lengthening, ever-ascending, = ever-improving path. You know you will never get to the end of the = journey. But this, so far from discouraging, only adds to the joy and = glory of the climb." - Sir Winston = Churchill

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On Apr 26, 2013, at 3:50 PM, Dean Forss wrote:

I hear you = Jim on this one but alas, I have no choice. Ivory uses the damn iLok and = when my iLok key failed I had to buy another one. I got a hold of = Synthogy and told them they were crazy to go with iLok when they had the = worlds best piano and we have to rely on antiquated and worst yet - = unreliable licensing schemes. They said they were reviewing the options = and gave me a two week code while I waited for a new iLok to arrive. = Painful...

Dean

On Fri, Apr 26, = 2013 at 1:42 PM, Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com> wrote:
I do a fair amount of work in DAWs, and my policy is to not buy anything = that requires iLok.

There is an extravaganza of audio plugs in existence.  None of them = that require iLok are must-haves.  Not even the exalted Altiverb or = anything Waves makes.  IMO.

iLok exists as a fat smelly low paid security guard with a bad attitude = for honest people to use the products they purchased honestly.  I = don't see why anybody would support such a model.

I buy the software I use, and to ask me to pay an additional fee and = jump additional hoops just to have access to it is offensive.

I was fine with the Ae dongles.  They never failed me.  I did = have an Avid dongle go bad once, but it was a PACE product.  No = surprise there.




On Apr 26, 2013, at 12:26 PM, adam mercado wrote:

> ugh, iLok. Had to use them with Waves audio VSTs. Music software = licensing is SO archaic. I just thank the heavens the AE dongle is a = thing of the past, and wish the music software companies would catch up. = It seems Waves finally are, as their V9 edition uses a soft licensing = tool and has got rid of iLok at last
>
>
>
> Adam Mercado
> Influxx Media Production
> Fullerton, CA
>
> Moving Images. For Business
> 714=B0928=B09896
> http://www.influxx.com
> http://www.twitter.com/influxx
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx
> http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx
>
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 25, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Jim Curtis wrote:
>
>> Yes, due to Murphy's Law, it's likely to go haywire at the = worst possible moment.
>>
>> Have you heard this joke of a service that Pace / iLok offers = called "Zero Downtime?"  When you read the fine print, you realize = that zero doesn't mean what it used to.  It means something = decidedly non-zero.  I hate that company.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Robert W. Walker wrote:
>>
>>> This is the sort of thing that scares the crap out of me = with regard to
>>> Cloud.
>>>
>>> Robert W. Walker
>>> Los Angeles
>>>
>>>
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> Subject: Re: [AE] Creative Cloud Updaters don't = work
>>>> From: Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com>
>>>> Date: Thu, April 25, 2013 2:58 pm
>>>> To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv> >>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can't help, but I can attest that the cleaner tool = and uninstall functions leave plenty of Adobe files on your system. =  In the past, when I had just one CS suite installed, and ran = uninstall and the cleaner scripts, I'd do an EasyFind for "Adobe," and = would locate over 30 files with "adobe" in the name.
>>>>
>>>> And I would expect that authorization files don't have = "adobe" in the name, and likely invisible, to make them harder to = crack.
>>>>
>>>> I think that's why a fresh OS install first is the only = way to do a clean install of the apps.  You also should get the = thirty day trial reset on a clean OS install.  That may at least = allow you to finish your work until you get your authorization issues = sussed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Daniel Monro wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Benny,
>>>>>
>>>>> I went from C3 to CS6 on this machine, with = iterations of all builds. I had those same remnants that the adobe = cleaner didn't get, too. I gathered them up manually and burned them to = a disc and then deleted all of them. Never gave me trouble and I've = never needed that disc....
>>>>>
>>>>> For what its worth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck,
>>>>> D
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On ThursdayApr 252013, at 11:50 AM, Benny = Christensen <bennychristensen@me.com> = wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have bits of Adobe stuff in my Library going = back to CS3. Who starts every update with a virgin system and hard = drive? I still have working versions of CS5.5 apps because until = recently I CS6 wouldn't run all of the plugins I have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would give the error codes, but I have = already read the dozens of related threads on the Adobe and Google = search sites. Some of these errors go back to CS5 updates. None of them = have provided a cure beyond erasing everything and starting over, which = still doesn't work. That just results in a different error code. Plus, = it takes forever to download and install all this stuff, and I have a = dual T1 connection. FOREVER.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have tried this on a fairly new Macbook Pro = and my main MacPro computer. Same deal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Look, I am no fan of the cloud because of = exactly this kind of BS. Adobe isn't doing me any favors. I don't owe = them anything. They sell (rent) me tools and I use them to make money. = When their delivery mechanism is as buggy as this, they deserve to = answer for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been using Photoshop & After Effects = since the early 90's. If there was a better alternative I would use them = and forget about Adobe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Extremely frustrated today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Benny Christensen
>>>>>> Producers Playhouse
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Steve Oakley = wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you ran the clean up script set to scorched = earth mode ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> w/o getting into the particulars when I was = doing a lot of installs / uninstalls on a machine and it got wonky, that = always worked. did you try running it twice ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> well if the clean up script isn't = working...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> try doing a finder search for  CS5, = CS5.5 and CS6 and turn on ( hit plus sign ) System Files are = included
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this will turn up any last stray bits of = the installs, drag them off to the trash and empty.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a lot of those files are in System = HD/library/application support/Adobe  and users/your user = name/library/application support and user prefs folder. if library = folders aren't visible, google how to enable their visibility. its a = single command line thing to copy and paste to enable them in 10.8
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> another question - where the apps install = onto the system drive ? or another location  ? and do you possibly = have a dual boot setup ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> S
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Benny = Christensen <bennychristensen@me.com> = wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did that. Doesn't work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Benny Christensen
>>>>>>>> Producers Playhouse
>>>>>>>> Oklahoma City
>>>>>>>> 405-858-0700
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "To be is to do"--Socrates
>>>>>>>> "To do is to be"--Jean-Paul Sartre
>>>>>>>> "Do be do be do"--Frank Sinatra
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:08 AM, Steve = Oakley wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you can't just trash your apps. = they have to be properly uninstalled because the uninstall process = updates local housekeeping files on the apps status and removes a lot of = other files.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> google "adobe cleanup script"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> go get it. run it and follow the in = app directions.  this removes not just the apps, but the = housekeeping files too. consider it the nukular deinstall. then = reinstall apps.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> honestly with the local .DMG = install file its pretty fast and painless, especially with SSD :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> if you had CS6 installed from DVD / = .DMG on the machine and switched to cloud  ... lets just say = sometimes @!#t happens and the clean up script should get you going.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the cloud installers do really = work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> S
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Benny = Christensen <bennychristensen@me.com> = wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have all over this for the = past few (wasted) days since signing up for the Creative Cloud.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> None of the updaters work. NONE = OF THEM WORK!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There are postings all over = describing the errors and the best Adobe can come up with is to trash = all my apps and start over. Are you kidding me?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I accidentally did that and the = updaters still don't work. THEY STILL DON"T WORK!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If it is not ready for the real = world they shouldn't be trying to force it down our throats.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm ranting because this is = wasting way too much of my time. AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Benny Christensen
>>>>>>>>>> Producers Playhouse
>>>>>>>>>> Oklahoma City
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