Return-Path: Received: from eu1sys200aog121.obsmtp.com ([207.126.144.151] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 5062202 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 06 May 2013 17:45:33 +0200 Received: from mail-bk0-f71.google.com ([209.85.214.71]) (using TLSv1) by eu1sys200aob121.postini.com ([207.126.147.11]) with SMTP ID DSNKUYfSKTmHha2/qGH5flxTZPAEhOlFcMpo@postini.com; Mon, 06 May 2013 15:54:18 UTC Received: by mail-bk0-f71.google.com with SMTP id jk13so5284730bkc.6 for ; Mon, 06 May 2013 08:54:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=SDxWcL+vz2PJJL4b9av+KFAIdngh/RRSqIbVS4Ux144=; b=WsZeFChU9qy4Db3hnmXEvnPK3+Bl3+9/a17cFfn4SdM5pboqXQL/GBi8BVoCe1NXgJ mBXfblj+sd+qDJSKfbsZOlXZn1e0rQBVkIUShy4N7UVJNdxDsNhd0sNroJ3Bjo+wOI84 ohanl5wrKucKfJNE6Lrb6J369YwfjXXwwwysq5lbnDVv0ze+AQ5yMV0/R0+Z+Qd9ThQT WIRfPx64Nre1zEn5SgdIIa9uEAwuZlB+RKkQT9G6Jg0KiuxGT5lPwqS3/iXmdZVmDO84 803395mn5oqwRAKxnwdllPyPtA6o9nWU4++BWrPkfNhsKlrpgaJEzBGS1hLbJN8kuy2O hXdw== X-Received: by 10.180.88.162 with SMTP id bh2mr9606023wib.3.1367855657820; Mon, 06 May 2013 08:54:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.88.162 with SMTP id bh2mr9606019wib.3.1367855657720; Mon, 06 May 2013 08:54:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.48.66 with HTTP; Mon, 6 May 2013 08:54:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 11:54:17 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Mocha to create plate From: Ross Shain To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04426c58952d2c04dc0eb64e X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmniLoyuqn5vF8e/IDSAMbzaC+KAyMxGMqFws3pfY5Y4mSrA5U92cxP3vW7Tkqt5lNnAksNmL1Bt5xSiBE3Z2DZTBIXgdgEhJkZXlIs/Q9Zy5azaB0f3XPceI3TqTHtt8rM36IA2etPRAuT3x/vZsdxTL+XGJzklWpRpEL1FBTf3tM+fmE= --f46d04426c58952d2c04dc0eb64e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Sean, I have seen a couple users achieve what you want. Essentially pre-comp you clip into a very large canvas and then stabilize. Here are a couple links: David Shorey used mocha Pro's remove module on this one: http://www.mochapromagic.com/archives/84 An Carl Larsen used mocha and AE to create a large plate: https://vimeo.com/64574867 A very useful key to solving panning shots in mocha is "unlinking" the layer from the track. This effectively creates an offset tracking relationship where the shape stays in one place and as pixels enter the shape, they offset the track data. Hope this helps, Ross On 3 May 2013 15:52, Mathias M=F6hl wrote: > Hi Sean, > > to track an area, but don't move the mask you need to set the option "Lin= k > to Track" of the layer in mocha to "none". > > To create a panoramic out of your pan, you can use the technique I show i= n > these tutorials: > > > http://www.mamoworld.com/index.php?option=3Dcom_content&view=3Darticle&id= =3D262:tutorial-ultra-smooth-pans&catid=3D35:tutorials&Itemid=3D85 > > > http://www.mamoworld.com/index.php?option=3Dcom_content&view=3Darticle&id= =3D96%3Atutorial-stabilize-motion-without-the-need-to-zoom-in&catid=3D35%3A= tutorials&Itemid=3D85 > > Follow the tutorial and just skip the step to move the stabilized image > again - since you don't want a smoothed movement but no movement at all. > In these tutorials, I create duplicates of the layer and shift them in > time. > I do it to fill the borders of the stabilized clip, but if you use a > larger comp, you can use the same to stitch a larger image instead of > reconstructing only the borders. > > Cheers, > Mathias > > Am 03.05.2013 um 00:00 schrieb After Effects Mail List < > AE-List@media-motion.tv>: > > Message-ID: > From: Sean Kennedy > Subject: Mocha to create plate > Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 19:11:17 -0700 > > --_000977f6-05af-4f29-8adb-5f8e4a3036f0_ > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hi all=3D2C > I only have the version of Mocha that comes bundled with AE CS6. > I have a long tripod panning shot. Basically=3D2C I'd like to create one > long=3D > image that is basically a huge panoramic of the entire scene that is pann= e=3D > d across. Isn't there a way for Mocha to do something like this? I seem t= o > =3D > remember a tutorial where the camera pans up or down a blue sign with > Asian=3D > characters on it=3D2C and you can tell mocha to kind of lock the mask to = scr=3D > een space=3D2C even though it is tracking what's passing through the mask= . > Is there an easier way to do this that to just grab every few frames and > pa=3D > ste them all together on photoshop? > thanks=3D2C sean =3D > > > --=20 Ross Shain Chief Marketing Officer Imagineer Systems - developers of* mocha* planar tracking and visual effects tools. www.imagineersystems.com Phone: +1.646.298.6458 | Fax: 646.808.0831 | Email: rosss@imagineersystems.com Find us online: Facebook | Vimeo| Imagineer Forums | Imagineer Blog --f46d04426c58952d2c04dc0eb64e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Sean,
I have seen a couple users achieve what you want. Essentially p= re-comp you clip into a very large canvas and then stabilize.
Here are a= couple links:

David Shorey used mocha Pro's remove module on t= his one:
http://www.mochapromag= ic.com/archives/84

An Carl Larsen used mocha and AE to create a = large plate:
https://vimeo.com/6= 4574867

A very useful key to solving panning shots in mocha is "unlinking&= quot; the layer from the track. This effectively creates an offset tracking= relationship where the shape stays in one place and as pixels enter the sh= ape, they offset the track data.

Hope this helps,
Ross


On 3 May= 2013 15:52, Mathias M=F6hl <mamo181@googlemail.com> wr= ote:
Hi = Sean,

to track an area, but don't move the mas= k you need to set the option "Link to Track" of the layer in moch= a to "none".

To create a panoramic out of your pan, you can use the = technique I show in these tutorials:



Follow the tutorial and just skip the step to move= the stabilized image again - since you don't want a smoothed movement = but no movement at all.
In these tutorials, I create duplic= ates of the layer and shift them in time.=A0
I do it to fill the borders of the stabilized clip, but if you use a l= arger comp, you can use the same to stitch a larger image instead of recons= tructing only the borders.

Cheers,
Mathi= as

Am 03.05.2013 um 00:00 schrieb After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-mo= tion.tv>:

Message-ID: <COL127-W6488043C48E2CBDA1183EA3BD0@phx.gbl>
From: Sean Kenn= edy <mack_dadd2@hotmail.com>
Subject: Mocha = to create plate
Date: Wed, 1 Ma= y 2013 19:11:17 -0700

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Hi all=3D2C
I only have the= version of Mocha that comes bundled with AE CS6.
I have a long t= ripod panning shot. Basically=3D2C I'd like to create one long=3D
image that is b= asically a huge panoramic of the entire scene that is panne=3D
d across. Isn&#= 39;t there a way for Mocha to do something like this? I seem to =3D<= br style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-v= ariant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;t= ext-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:norm= al;word-spacing:0px"> remember a tuto= rial where the camera pans up or down a blue sign with Asian=3D
characters on i= t=3D2C and you can tell mocha to kind of lock the mask to scr=3D
een space=3D2C = even though it is tracking what's passing through the mask.
Is there an eas= ier way to do this that to just grab every few frames and pa=3D
ste them all to= gether on photoshop?
thanks=3D2C =A0= sean=A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=3D




-= -
Ross Shain
Chief Marketing Officer
Imagineer S= ystems - developers of mocha planar tracking and visual effects tool= s.

www.imagi= neersystems.com
Phone: +1.646.298.6458 | Fa= x: 646.808.0831 | Email: rosss@imagineersystems.com

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