Return-Path: Received: from mail-we0-f170.google.com ([74.125.82.170] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5062623 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 06 May 2013 23:27:51 +0200 Received: by mail-we0-f170.google.com with SMTP id z53so3304437wey.15 for ; Mon, 06 May 2013 14:36:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TykGm222g//ISlJo0CSSVZuJ9dig/TX+hsZuUwfKXJY=; b=j5P55yGL6WaR5gK9LMgBUiN+snaG8lN6CBihK8+7COIg+vIG6dQtY2lsEP9asbbhnB JubIMl8GkvNlPLq0xhCfayoHBCFn34bwqtI3oO/RJoFnQrVvfz4u8klqlcJXSUZZUl70 dCMU4jfIvXtIN4zEqLYCDbOZ2StOILXfgXzb/8Dx1hx7ZW8qhTrlM5ju73QknYrE2EmS RWE2W0zFe9hg3IOofB4Z88lKDcHiD655LgNGCOp3xdz/LcGSsddWGrF+rty5VdRUPHL4 JSuKqnciS/1M5Fgt+ZBf3YtjELWG8DVZxXBTEEMflvIi+qLEXVf62CDirS+U/wkt3sgL +uZg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.76.199 with SMTP id m7mr8285691wjw.43.1367876195823; Mon, 06 May 2013 14:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.236.165 with HTTP; Mon, 6 May 2013 14:36:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 17:36:35 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] CS is DEAD From: rendernyc To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bf0d52cbfb6a604dc137e84 --047d7bf0d52cbfb6a604dc137e84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i rarely do any work from home these days so keeping the yearly subscription sucks but not sure i have much choice. i used to keep my AE up to date and then the rest would update every few cycles at minumum. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Byron Nash wrote: > One thing that is nice is that if you are an occasional user you can > choose to buy a month here and there for $49 a pop. Doesn't seem to bad t= o > me if you can manage to make money with the tools. Also, a monthly bill > seems to be easier for some folks to handle than a $600 upgrade. If your > business doesn't make enough to cover $49 a month you have issues. > > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Elliot Steele wrote: > >> No, that=92s just it... >> >> There is no option to buy a new perpetual license or upgrade an existing >> perpetual license. >> >> Unless you switch to Creative Cloud you are stuck on CS6 forever. >> >> Sucks eh? >> >> Elliot >> >> >> Am 5/6/13 10:59 PM schrieb "James Culbertson" unter > >: >> >> But bottom line is that, whatever you want to call it, we still get the >> choice between paying as you go or buying a perpetual license new or >> upgrade for "CS Next" ...correct? >> >> Thanks, >> >> James >> >> >> On May 6, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Elliot Steele wrote: >> >> Re: [AE] CS is DEAD >> For people who are always in work and who upgrade every time a new >> version comes out, it makes no difference if they are upgrading the >> perpetual licenses or subscribing to Creative Cloud. >> >> The people this will negatively impact are the ones who maybe can=92t >> afford to upgrade every time and therefore can=92t afford to pay $600 a = year >> for a subscription. With the current model these people could still work >> with the version they have. Once using the cloud model, a lapse in >> subscription means they can=92t work and therefore can=92t earn the mone= y >> needed to pay for the subscription. >> >> I personally like to own the licenses of my software. Some packages need >> a subscription to keep up to date but if I stop paying that, for whateve= r >> reason, the software still works. I just don=92t get my updates. >> >> I would have liked CC to have been running parallel with CS for a few >> versions before forcing everyone over to it. >> >> Elliot >> >> >> Am 5/6/13 8:14 PM schrieb "pixelbot@comcast.net > //403/pixelbot@comcast.net> " unter > //403/pixelbot@comcast.net> >: >> >> CC is the new CS - discuss >> >> >> >> > --=20 danny princz exposedideas.com --047d7bf0d52cbfb6a604dc137e84 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i rarely do any work from home these days so keeping the y= early subscription sucks but not sure i have much choice.
i used = to keep my AE up to date and then the rest would update every few cycles at= minumum.=A0


On Mon,= May 6, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Byron Nash <byronnash@gmail.com> = wrote:
One thing that is nice is t= hat if you are an occasional user you can choose to buy a month here and th= ere for $49 a pop. Doesn't seem to bad to me if you can manage to make = money with the tools. Also, a monthly bill seems to be easier for some folk= s to handle than a $600 upgrade. If your business doesn't make enough t= o cover $49 a month you have issues. =A0


On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Elliot Steele <elliot@ppdm.de> wrote:
No, that=92s just it...

There is no option to buy a new perpetual license or upgrade an existing pe= rpetual license.

Unless you switch to Creative Cloud you are stuck on CS6 forever.

Sucks eh?

Elliot


Am 5/6/13 10:59 PM schrieb "James Culbertson" unter <albion@speakeasy.net= >:

But bottom lin= e is that, whatever you want to call it, we still get the choice between pa= ying as you go or buying a perpetual license new or upgrade for "CS Ne= xt" ...correct?

Thanks,

James


On May 6, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Elliot Steele wrote:

Re: [AE]= CS is DEAD
For people who are always in work and who upgrade every time a new version = comes out, it makes no difference if they are upgrading the perpetual licen= ses or subscribing to Creative Cloud.

The people this will negatively impact are the ones who maybe can=92t affor= d to upgrade every time and therefore can=92t afford to pay $600 a year for= a subscription. With the current model these people could still work with = the version they have. Once using the cloud model, a lapse in subscription = means they can=92t work and therefore can=92t earn the money needed to pay = for the subscription.

I personally like to own the licenses of my software. Some packages need a = subscription to keep up to date but if I stop paying that, for whatever rea= son, the software still works. I just don=92t get my updates.

I would have liked CC to have been running parallel with CS for a few versi= ons before forcing everyone over to it.

Elliot


Am 5/6/13 8:14 PM schrieb "pixelbot@comcast.net <x-msg://403/pixelbot@comcast.net> " u= nter <pixelbot= @comcast.net <x-msg://403/pixelbot@comcast.net> >:

CC is the new CS - discuss







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