Return-Path: Received: from cri.crishdesign.com ([198.57.142.178] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5063361 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 07 May 2013 16:44:43 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46757 helo=webmail.crishdesign.com) by cri.crishdesign.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UZjGh-0003Ap-6Q for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 07 May 2013 08:53:27 -0600 Received: from 66.78.233.142 ([66.78.233.142]) (proxying for 66.78.233.142) (SquirrelMail authenticated user chris@crishdesign.com) by webmail.crishdesign.com with HTTP; Tue, 7 May 2013 08:53:27 -0600 Message-ID: <2baa224433c32d82c9496265dfd181cc.squirrel@webmail.crishdesign.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 08:53:27 -0600 Subject: Re: [AE] CS is DEAD From: chris@crishdesign.com To: "After Effects Mail List" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cri.crishdesign.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - crishdesign.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cri.crishdesign.com: authenticated_id: chris@crishdesign.com There are a lot of misconceptions about Creative Cloud. And many seem to be filling gaps in knowledge with fear. Hey, I too was skeptical about the Cloud initially. Now that I've been on it for a year, I love it. Some common misconceptions debunked (including ones I previously held): You run it from your local computer; not over your internet connection. You don't need a constant connection; just to check in occasionally (ideally, once a month, but a Todd has pointed out there's a grace period). The downloader and installer for the Cloud actually work better (and faster) than any other Adobe installer in recent memory. (And no, I don't have T3; I live in the mountains in a poor, less-populous state and have less bandwidth than many or most of you.) Your current "permanent" license copies will keep working as long as your computer and OS allow them to. (Heck, I still have 4.1 and 5 - not CS4 and CS5, but v4.1 and v5 - running on an ancient laptop for those really old projects.) Adobe has promised Cloud users to several years of past Cloud versions, so as time goes on, if you really need to run an older version, you may well be able to. (Still not clear on precisely how that's going to work, as to date there's only been one Cloud version so far, but enough Adobe folks have taken pains to reassure me of this that I'm willing to trust them for now.) Yes, it's a subscription rather than a pay-once model. But the pricing in the US is very, very reasonable compared to the previous pay-once pricing. And to be brutally frank, a lot of freelancers & self-employed could use help in budgeting for periodic expenses like software upgrades. Oh, and we can install one Cloud "account" on two computers. What the Cloud is pure hell for is those creating training and support materials, as the concept of "version" just got really fuzzy, and Adobe can potentially cut off the "long tail" on sales to those holding onto older versions at any time - but that's another discussion, and one that doesn't effect many or most of you. I'm not going to pretend moving to the subscription Cloud model is all upside and no downside. But after living with it for a year, I'm far more comfortable with it than I was before I actually tried it. Really. - Chris > todd, this post alone convinced me.... > ;-) > b > > On May 6, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Todd Kopriva wrote: > >> To address your (somewhat joking, I presume) scenario seriously, Jim: >> >> If the application checks to see if its activation is current and fails >> to connect with the server, you go into a "grace period" mode, during >> which the software still runs, but it tells you how many days you have >> to connect to the Internet to activate. The grace period for folks on an >> annual subscription is 99 days. So, you'll have more than three months >> in the worst-case scenario to finish your work---and if the >> mini-apocalypse hasn't been resolved by then, you may have bigger >> concerns. >> >> So, you most certainly do not need a constant Internet connection to run >> this software. >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: After Effects Mail List [AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Jim >> Curtis [jpcurtis@me.com] >> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 4:15 PM >> To: After Effects Mail List >> Subject: Re: [AE] CS is DEAD >> >> I'm going to have to marry a rich widow to retire, I'm afraid. >> >> But, it's comforting to hear stories like yours, Rob. I hope your >> results are typical. I suppose I'll join the club after Ae and Pr Next >> are released. >> >> My "worry" is that some cyber attack will bring down the power grid and >> I won't be able to authorize, while running Ae off my wood fueled power >> generator. But, I'm hoping my clients will cut me some slack on the >> deadline if that happens. >> >> >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to > > bruce tovsky > www.skeletonhome.com > > "Reality is whatever refuses to go away when I stop believing in it.." > Philip K. Dick > >