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Subject: Re: [AE] CS is DEAD
From: Dann Stubbs <dann@darkskydigital.com>
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Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 17:50:13 -0400
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hi steve

since i made comment on concern over future price increases  as my =
"theory" i am glad to see your reply

but i will save your email as well, and we'll see what happens i =
guess... because as far as i can tell - there is no real basis behind =
saying it won't go up and calling it FUD - product manager or not, i =
don't think that tier makes the pricing decisions, in fact it's probably =
more of a committee and we all know how rational those are right? adobe =
has stock, they have shareholders, and that means profits, increases in =
profits or bad projections for the shareholders.

the reason ATT and Verizon etc have not raised their prices it they =
can't because of competition - something that adobe it quite lacking at =
the moment from my perspective.

adobe and others like microsoft are essentially killing (often via =
buying up their competition) of course there is always the chance they =
won't, and sure it may not, but if they won't have adobe put a statement =
on the price will NOT go up. of course they won't do that... but things =
are getting more expensive, insurance for employees, electricity, food, =
catering, executive compensation does have a habit of going up and not =
staying the same etc... money, money, money... there is a finite market =
for every product - even adobe apps.

if they don't raise prices then good for us the consumer! yay! i will =
rejoice along with all the others, but until then someone being =
concerned and expressing valid concerns about future price increases =
once they are "locked on board" is as viable an opinion to me as someone =
else saying that there will NOT be price increases "just because"

have a great evening,

dann
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Dann Stubbs  -  dann@darkskydigital.com
Dark Sky Digital -  http://www.darkskydigital.com

http://www.RenderKing.com  Value Priced C4D, VRAY Render Farm
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On May 7, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Steve Forde wrote:

> I want to respond to this directly as I have seen a lot of this FUD =
(Fear,
> Uncertainty and Doubt). Frankly, this is nothing but idle fear =
mongering.
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> A subscription model has zero incentive to jack prices over time as it
> then introduces a strong barrier to entry for new customers.  If you =
live
> in the US - go to a Verizon or AT&T store - and see if you think entry
> prices have gone up over the last 10 years.  They haven't.
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> Sure there's been say new services or devices that cost extra - but =
the
> base cost of the platform in fact usually goes down - NOT up.
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> As for what we at Adobe have in store downstream, I can't comment - =
but I
> will state that we are highly motivated to provide value via Creative
> Cloud, hence the many promotions with discounts we run as incentive to
> join it.
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> S.
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> On 5/7/13 8:58 AM, "Dann Stubbs" <dann@darkskydigital.com> wrote:
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>> also this whole "cloud" thing is very flexible - like once adobe =
finds
>> 90% of it's user base transitioned (via no other option) on "cloud" =
there
>> is not much to stop that $49 monthly fee from going to $249 per =
month,
>> though it will probably go up in smaller steps, $79, $99, $129 etc - =
this
>> is like printing money at that point - need to increase revenues to =
get
>> that fat bonus? let's up the monthly "cloud" price - after all the
>> "users" will HAVE to pay it now or their apps go poof and they loose
>> access to all their data/files (insert evil laugh "moo hoo haa haa" =
here)
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