Subject: Re: [AE] CS is DEAD
References: <list-5063830@media-motion.tv>
From: Rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset=us-ascii
In-Reply-To: <list-5063830@media-motion.tv>
Message-Id: <2C616777-A7F3-49E6-BBAE-C3387E84917C@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 18:00:12 -0400
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0)

Notice how healthcare premiums go up by large percentages every year?


On May 7, 2013, at 5:50 PM, Dann Stubbs <dann@darkskydigital.com> wrote:

> hi steve
>=20
> since i made comment on concern over future price increases  as my "theory=
" i am glad to see your reply
>=20
> but i will save your email as well, and we'll see what happens i guess... b=
ecause as far as i can tell - there is no real basis behind saying it won't g=
o up and calling it FUD - product manager or not, i don't think that tier ma=
kes the pricing decisions, in fact it's probably more of a committee and we a=
ll know how rational those are right? adobe has stock, they have shareholder=
s, and that means profits, increases in profits or bad projections for the s=
hareholders.
>=20
> the reason ATT and Verizon etc have not raised their prices it they can't b=
ecause of competition - something that adobe it quite lacking at the moment f=
rom my perspective.
>=20
> adobe and others like microsoft are essentially killing (often via buying u=
p their competition) of course there is always the chance they won't, and su=
re it may not, but if they won't have adobe put a statement on the price wil=
l NOT go up. of course they won't do that... but things are getting more exp=
ensive, insurance for employees, electricity, food, catering, executive comp=
ensation does have a habit of going up and not staying the same etc... money=
, money, money... there is a finite market for every product - even adobe ap=
ps.
>=20
> if they don't raise prices then good for us the consumer! yay! i will rejo=
ice along with all the others, but until then someone being concerned and ex=
pressing valid concerns about future price increases once they are "locked o=
n board" is as viable an opinion to me as someone else saying that there wil=
l NOT be price increases "just because"
>=20
> have a great evening,
>=20
> dann
> ___________________________________________________________________
>=20
> Dann Stubbs  -  dann@darkskydigital.com
> Dark Sky Digital -  http://www.darkskydigital.com
>=20
> http://www.RenderKing.com  Value Priced C4D, VRAY Render Farm
> ___________________________________________________________________
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On May 7, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Steve Forde wrote:
>=20
>> I want to respond to this directly as I have seen a lot of this FUD (Fear=
,
>> Uncertainty and Doubt). Frankly, this is nothing but idle fear mongering.=

>>=20
>> A subscription model has zero incentive to jack prices over time as it
>> then introduces a strong barrier to entry for new customers.  If you live=

>> in the US - go to a Verizon or AT&T store - and see if you think entry
>> prices have gone up over the last 10 years.  They haven't.
>>=20
>> Sure there's been say new services or devices that cost extra - but the
>> base cost of the platform in fact usually goes down - NOT up.
>>=20
>> As for what we at Adobe have in store downstream, I can't comment - but I=

>> will state that we are highly motivated to provide value via Creative
>> Cloud, hence the many promotions with discounts we run as incentive to
>> join it.
>>=20
>> S.
>>=20
>> On 5/7/13 8:58 AM, "Dann Stubbs" <dann@darkskydigital.com> wrote:
>>=20
>>> also this whole "cloud" thing is very flexible - like once adobe finds
>>> 90% of it's user base transitioned (via no other option) on "cloud" ther=
e
>>> is not much to stop that $49 monthly fee from going to $249 per month,
>>> though it will probably go up in smaller steps, $79, $99, $129 etc - thi=
s
>>> is like printing money at that point - need to increase revenues to get
>>> that fat bonus? let's up the monthly "cloud" price - after all the
>>> "users" will HAVE to pay it now or their apps go poof and they loose
>>> access to all their data/files (insert evil laugh "moo hoo haa haa" here=
)
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> +---End of message---+
>> To unsubscribe send any message to <ae-list-off@media-motion.tv>
>=20
>=20
> +---End of message---+
> To unsubscribe send any message to <ae-list-off@media-motion.tv>