Mailing List AE-List@media-motion.tv ? Message #49010
From: adam mercado <adam@influxx.com>
Subject: Re: [AE] CS is DEAD
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 11:29:48 -0700
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
I too have limited my upgrades over the past 20 years to every other cycle,  sometimes skipping two cycles depending on finances. The last upgrade I did was so painful I have been gunshy about doing another. I skipped CS4, intended to do CS5 but times were just too tough and I fully intended on going to CS6. 

The trouble is Adobe is is just one part of the puzzle, and every software upgrade invariably requires a complimentary hardware upgrade, and often vice versa. Upgrading to Snow Leopard caused so many problems for me, nothing worked. And by nothing worked, I dont really mean nothing worked, but all of the important things i depend on to make a living just broke. And by broke I dont really mean they were completely inoperable, but lots of little niggly things like crashes, or force quits, or one function would not work properly.

So looking at the hardware requirements of CS6 I felt unsure if the investment would be truly beneficial. I'd need a new graphics card, more RAM. I am also a one man shop in a very competitive market in a down economy which means my budgets are smaller than ever. Its been a really tough couple of years, but I dont think I need to explain that to many of you. I cannot afford sink several thousands of dollars to get my entire system up to date, when I just about got my current one running smoothly (I had to nuke and repave and install everything again in the correct order..FWIW..ugh)

Anyhow, the CC seems like a nice way to offset the cost of owning the latest software over the course of a year. Its the hardware though that holds me back. I'm more likely to wait until I replace the system for the NEW MacPro (ha) when this becomes obsolete, or I just cannot do business based on outside influences etc.

Regarding software ownership....call me old fashioned but I do like the sense of ownership one gets when you open a nice chunk of packaging to put on the shelf, and having the install disks with the serial numbers printed on them and some nice printed manuals to reference in times of confusion. I feel like my $500, $800, $1200 whatever has been for SOMETHING. Even though, if you read the EULA, I dont actually OWN the software, I'm merely paying for the right to use it one one/two systems. It still FEELS like ownership from a consumer perspective. The CC makes no difference to the way we own our software, just the way we receive it I guess. Kind of like the take and bake pizza. What? You mean you're charging me full whack for this pizza, but I gotta take it home and cook it, MYSELF!!! Thats genius marketing right there. The CC is similar to me. I gotta pay for the software (although it does seem to cost less ton the whole, so a better deal), I have to use my bandwidth to download it, take the time to burn DVDs (unless i want to download 18GB of installers again when I have to do a reinstall next week), and print out the manuals. Yeah I'm being a bit flippant, who really needs the manuals in print, and do I really need to keep the installer handy. But you get the picture, I'm old fashioned. It'll take me a while to change my perspective.

It's still the 'upgrading one piece of the puzzle' fear factor for me though.



On May 7, 2013, at 7:50 AM, Drew Gilmore wrote:

Todd,

One of my main concerns stems from the 'misconceptions' video that was released yesterday. (http://tv.adobe.com/watch/inside-creative-cloud/the-myths-of-adobe-creative-cloud/)  During the answer to the question that starts at 2:20, am I to understand that if I'm a CC subscriber, I have one year to upgrade to whatever the newest release is?

As it is now, I have hardware that supports CS4 at maximum, and as a nonprofit we don't have funds to upgrade that hardware anytime soon. I use CS4 practically every day.

I can envision a time in the future as a CC subscriber that I'll be in the same boat - CC system requirements move ahead, and my hardware compatible. So what happens after one year?

Drew
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Just a guy made of dots and lines.


On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:21 AM, mylenium@mylenium.de <mylenium@mylenium.de> wrote:
The world's not coming to an end. As long as I have some working version of AE my little world's in order. For now I'm gladly using CS5.5 and have CS6 installed (still shunning it like the plague, though) and whether I'll ever have need for CS7 and beyond I don't know yet. If I ever should need some of the new stuff, joining Creative Cloud is more than affordable and should be a no-brainer because then I'll have the genuine need and money for it. The rest doesn't really matter. You may have "owned" the software in the past, but what good does it do you, if you can no longer use it because it's not compatible to contemporary operating systems or Adobe pull the plug on the activation servers? As far as I'm concerned, it has always been a non-issue. I'm more concerned with the technical side, that is how regularly the application manager and updaters fail, but that's another matter. Maybe it may become a problem at some point in the future when Adobe are phasing out older versions and forcing you to update e.g. from CS6 to CS9, but well, as already mentioned, there may be other technical imperatives that force that decision upon you long before that...
 
Mylenium
 
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> "N. B. Carroll" <NBCarroll@NBCarroll.com> hat am 7. Mai 2013 um 11:34 geschrieben:
>
>
> "Activate periodically" = "as soon as we issue a new version, your old
> s/w stops working."
>
> It will be a cold day in a very warm place.
>
> I've been an Adobe customer since 1992. I no longer own any s/w
> versions that qualify me for upgrades. Apparently that will remain so.
>
> Cloud, schmoud.
>
> And as to why someone wouldn't want to d/l gigabytye-plus installers:
> ever heard of data limits? Ever heard of DSL?
>
> I just love people who assume that everyone's got megabucks in
> disposable income and is sitting on a T3 connection. Such arrogance.
>
>
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