Return-Path: Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.194] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5067267 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 11 May 2013 19:54:57 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.5] (CPE-72-135-122-86.new.res.rr.com [72.135.122.86]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MUp2i-1V2qGF2Yrk-00Z3G4; Sat, 11 May 2013 14:03:48 -0400 From: Steve Oakley Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_85DC1606-7A3C-4A6B-B681-756489A9A488" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Subject: Re: [AE] CS is DEAD Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 13:03:50 -0500 References: To: "After Effects Mail List" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:VJoformi6P1NZCWa9MZtYAkLCjQR6RZLf31DiRFF3i1 Ma7SzjPKIyCbOGVMoHfhTuVXDva0fH9GWOQJS9OdIKOu/x/URF u8sidlg07vUOQPKPU41I/BjQYBGwGkNrkGmPfEgLYygebbZz8Y UmDwsQbGDY3Y88ccJMCbqgmimn0SlN3U84igfkWeJ0HvwugJE5 q36gIuHmTECZA5RPJFYfpvi8Dz7Ak1gnvnY26PSHzXntscfgJR +6AfWoEPO6r1QvvC9K2vd9dF1N95/hHcw5dRtK324zM6ieeDuc 7fbrKsZUIrQAfY1rhbqWp7N6bATMfYgkOdplBbE+RSfBIWdgoI oI1lIWbMcrwNdmWbZXsEdkn3BQ+B/w6Mh6jQMlgO4tN2TbognY yU2tpcKwBnhcw== --Apple-Mail=_85DC1606-7A3C-4A6B-B681-756489A9A488 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm not sure what problems you are referring to. I've done = 10.6->10.7->10.8 on the same drive doing normal update installs across 4 = machines. all has been fine. rarely does an OS update ever hurt anything = and more often than not fixes things. that said, in case no one noticed, = apple has removed web sharing from 10.8 system prefs. all the bits are = still there, but requires manual config to start up and run.... or buy X = server for 29.99 or so.=20 S On May 11, 2013, at 2:01 AM, adam mercado wrote: > You misunderstood. I was not blaming third party software. It was = clearly the OS that caused the ills. I was merely expressing my = reluctance to upgrade ANYTHING anymore unless its critical to do so. I = got my production machine behaving and have left it in that state for = several years. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On May 10, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Rich Young wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> "Upgrading to Snow Leopard caused so many problems for me, nothing = worked." >>=20 >> Why risk a production machine for an unnecessary (mostly Mac) OS = update, and then blame 3rd-party software? >>=20 >> Nothing personal if I'm being insufferable, I've been burned in a = variety of ways by updates that zigged without concern for others. >>=20 >> And skipping back a bit, sure there are some concerns with CC = (http://img.ly/uGvQ), but there's nothing new with inevitable problems = opening files far between versions.=20 >>=20 >> Rich >=20 --Apple-Mail=_85DC1606-7A3C-4A6B-B681-756489A9A488 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I'm = not sure what problems you are referring to. I've done = 10.6->10.7->10.8 on the same drive doing normal update installs = across 4 machines. all has been fine. rarely does an OS update ever hurt = anything and more often than not fixes things. that said, in case no one = noticed, apple has removed web sharing from 10.8 system prefs. all the = bits are still there, but requires manual config to start up and run.... = or buy X server for 29.99 or = so. 

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On May 11, 2013, = at 2:01 AM, adam mercado <adam@influxx.com> = wrote:

You misunderstood. I was = not blaming third party software. It was clearly the OS that caused the = ills. I was merely expressing my reluctance to upgrade ANYTHING anymore = unless its critical to do so. I got my production machine behaving and = have left it in that state for several = years.


"Upgrading to Snow Leopard caused so many problems for me, = nothing worked."

Why risk a production machine for an unnecessary = (mostly Mac) OS update, and then blame 3rd-party = software?

Nothing personal if I'm being insufferable, I've been = burned in a variety of ways by updates that zigged without concern for = others.

And skipping back a bit, sure there are some concerns = with CC (http://img.ly/uGvQ), but = there's nothing new with inevitable problems opening files far between = versions. =

Rich


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