Return-Path: Received: from atl4mhob05.myregisteredsite.com ([209.17.115.43] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5094855 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 04 Jun 2013 08:36:01 +0200 Received: from mail.hostingplatform.com ([10.30.71.211]) by atl4mhob05.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r546jckl002428 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 02:45:38 -0400 Received: (qmail 25624 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jun 2013 06:45:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.1.7?) (torno@sydefxink.com@75.51.169.28) by 0 with ESMTPA; 4 Jun 2013 06:45:37 -0000 Subject: Re: [AE] AE to QT Color Problem References: From: David Torno Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6487DC4A-33A1-4682-B4F4-77583267E6F7 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B329) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <373B33B9-1AB3-484C-9AFC-2D73A673186A@sydefxink.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 23:45:32 -0700 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) --Apple-Mail-6487DC4A-33A1-4682-B4F4-77583267E6F7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > No pro uses Quicktime exporting for anything else but basic reviewing I'd be careful saying that. Plenty of pros use QT for more than just preview= ing. ;) Final delivery in some cases. The codec is what makes the difference. David Torno Visual Effects Artist & Supervisor http://www.ghosttownmedia.com O: 213.739.2290 C: 818.391.6060 --------------------- http://www.sydefxink.com http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com http://mactex.blogspot.com "The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh" -Charles Field On Jun 3, 2013, at 11:29 PM, Olivier Burri wrote: > Use Image Sequence instead. > It's a known problem. > No pro uses Quicktime exporting for anything else but basic reviewing >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:08 AM, David Torno wrote: >> Ya, I use to use x264. It was amazing, but it always seemed to stop worki= ng after a few weeks or so. It would just cause a crash for any app using th= e codec. When it was working, it was great and did replicate color very accu= rately. Unfortunately it was too unstable for me, so I had to ditch it. >>=20 >>=20 >> David Torno >> Visual Effects Artist & Supervisor >> http://www.ghosttownmedia.com >> O: 213.739.2290 >> C: 818.391.6060 >> --------------------- >> http://www.sydefxink.com >> http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com >> http://mactex.blogspot.com >>=20 >> "The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh" >> -Charles Field >>=20 >> On Jun 3, 2013, at 10:06 PM, Chris Meyer wrote: >>=20 >>> That work around doesn't always work. I far prefer to use the x264 varia= nt of the h.264 codec. >>>=20 >>> Background: http://provideocoalition.com/cmg_keyframes/story/brightness_= issues_with_h264_quicktime_movies >>>=20 >>> I'll email you the codec separately. Install in Library > QuickTime. >>>=20 >>> - Chris >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> ________________________________________________ >>> Chris Meyer | Crish Design >>> http://www.crishdesign.com >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Jun 3, 2013, at 7:14 PM, Lachlan Westfall wr= ote: >>>=20 >>>> Thanks.... Trying this now... >>>>=20 >>>> -L >>>>=20 >>>> On 6/3/13 5:53 PM, "David Torno" wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> H.264 rendered from AE or exported from QT Pro will always come out was= hed out and pale in the saturation. In QT Pro you need to open "Show Movie P= roperties" under window, select "Video Track" > "Visual Settings" and click= the "Transparency" dropdown and choose "Composition". This will bring the v= ideo gamma very closely back to the original source. >>>>=20 >>>> David Torno >>>> Visual Effects Artist & Supervisor >>>> http://www.ghosttownmedia.com >>>> O: 213.739.2290 >>>> C: 818.391.6060 >>>> --------------------- >>>> http://www.sydefxink.com >>>> http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com >>>> http://mactex.blogspot.com >>>>=20 >>>> "The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh" >>>> -Charles Field >>>>=20 >>>> On Jun 3, 2013, at 5:42 PM, Lachlan Westfall w= rote: >>>>=20 >>>> Re: [AE] AE to QT Color Problem I=E2=80=99m rendering out lossless, the= n converting to H.264 via QT. The problem can be seen even in the lossless v= ersion. >>>>=20 >>>> I also just found something in the AE preferences about matching legacy= QT gamma adjustments. I wonder if this has something to do with it? >>>>=20 >>>> -L >>>>=20 >>>> On 6/3/13 5:37 PM, "scott.aelist" wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> What codec are you using? >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-6487DC4A-33A1-4682-B4F4-77583267E6F7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No pro uses Quicktime exporti= ng for anything else but basic reviewing
I'd be careful sa= ying that. Plenty of pros use QT for more than just previewing. ;)
Final delivery in some cases. The codec is what makes the difference.=


David Torno
Visual Effects Artist &= ; Supervisor
O: 213.739.2290
C: 818.391.6060
---------------------
http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com

"The mo= st useless day is that in which we do not laugh"
-Charles Field

On Jun 3, 2013, a= t 11:29 PM, Olivier Burri <ogburri@g= mail.com> wrote:

Use Image Sequence instead.
It's a known problem.
No pro uses Quicktime exporting for anything else but bas= ic reviewing


On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:08 AM, David Torno <torno@sydefxink.com> wrote:
Ya, I use to use x264. It was amazing, but it always s= eemed to stop working after a few weeks or so. It would just cause a crash f= or any app using the codec. When it was working, it was great and did replic= ate color very accurately. Unfortunately it was too unstable for me, so I ha= d to ditch it.


David Torno
Visual Effects A= rtist & Supervisor
O: 213.739.2290
---------------------
http://aeiow= eyou.blogspot.com

"The most useless day is that in wh= ich we do not laugh"
-Charles Field

On Jun 3, 2013, at 10:06 PM, Chris Meyer <= ;chris@crishdesig= n.com> wrote:

That work a= round doesn't always work. I far prefer to use the x264 variant of the h.264= codec.

Background: h= ttp://provideocoalition.com/cmg_keyframes/story/brightness_issues_with_h264_= quicktime_movies

I'll email you the codec separ= ately. Install in Library > QuickTime.

 - Chri= s


________________________________________________
Chris Meyer | Crish Desi= gn
http://www.cr= ishdesign.com

On Jun 3, 2013, at 7:14 PM, Lachlan Westfall <lachlan@quietearth.net>= ; wrote:

Thanks.... Trying this now...

-L

On 6/3/13 5:53 PM, "David Torno" <torno@sydefxink.com> wrote:

H.264 rendered from AE or exported fr= om QT Pro will always come out washed out and pale in the saturation. In QT P= ro you need to open "Show Movie Properties" under window, select  "Vide= o Track" > "Visual Settings" and click the "Transparency" dropdown and ch= oose "Composition". This will bring the video gamma very closely back to the= original source.

David Torno
Visual Effects Artist & Supervisor
http://www.ghos= ttownmedia.com
O: 213= .739.2290
C: 818= .391.6060
---------------------
http://www.sydefxink= .com
http://aeioweyo= u.blogspot.com
http://mactex.blog= spot.com

"The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh"
-Charles Field

On Jun 3, 2013, at 5:42 PM, Lachlan Westfall <lachlan@quietearth.net> wrote:

Re: [AE] AE to QT Color Problem I=E2=80= =99m rendering out lossless, then converting to H.264 via QT. The problem ca= n be seen even in the lossless version.

I also just found something in the AE preferences about matching legacy QT g= amma adjustments. I wonder if this has something to do with it?

-L

On 6/3/13 5:37 PM, "scott.aelist" <scott.aelist@gmail.com> wrote:

What codec are you using?


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