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From: Robert Kjettrup <robert@stvmayday.dk>
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 21:40:53 +0200
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Subject: Re: [AE] AE to QT Color Problem
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2013/6/4 Brendan Bolles <brendan@fnordware.com>

> On Jun 4, 2013, at 4:30 AM, Robert Kjettrup wrote:
>
> > But everytime a client asks for an QT h264 i just encode an MP4 and
> there is no problem for them to play it back. And telling them to use VLC
> to view it too if they are a bit computer savy, and there is no gamma
> issues.
>
>
> This seems like a good solution to me - leave QuickTime out of it all
> together.  And there are many other MP4 players to choose from in addition
> to VLC.
>
>
> Another movie format I've been checking out is WebM, an open source format
> sponsored by Google.  It will soon support 4:4:4, alpha channel, depth
> channel, and maybe 10-bit.  Seems like it could be a good open source
> replacement for ProRes if it gets wider adoption.  You can currently play
> WebM directly in Firefox, Chrome, VLC, and others.
>
> They have a companion still image format, WebP, which supports lossless
> compression too.  Unfortunately, the movie format doesn't currently do
> lossless.
>
>

Yes, Googles VP9 looks very interesting, and so does the new ORBX.js codec
that Mozilla and the Otoy guys have been developing:
http://brendaneich.com/2013/05/today-i-saw-the-future/

Both of them claim about the same compression/quality as h.265 (HEVC), but
both don't have the same license "problems" as h.264 have and h.265 will
have. So maybe the future standard codec wont be h.265 as many predict, but
maybe the future looks more bright.... or messy... depending on how you
look at it :-)

- Robert

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
2013/6/4 Brendan Bolles <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:brendan@fno=
rdware.com" target=3D"_blank">brendan@fnordware.com</a>&gt;</span><br><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-=
width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;paddin=
g-left:1ex">

<div class=3D"im">On Jun 4, 2013, at 4:30 AM, Robert Kjettrup wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; But everytime a client asks for an QT h264 i just encode an MP4 and th=
ere is no problem for them to play it back. And telling them to use VLC to =
view it too if they are a bit computer savy, and there is no gamma issues.<=
br>


<br>
<br>
</div>This seems like a good solution to me - leave QuickTime out of it all=
 together. =A0And there are many other MP4 players to choose from in additi=
on to VLC.<br>
<br>
<br>
Another movie format I&#39;ve been checking out is WebM, an open source for=
mat sponsored by Google. =A0It will soon support 4:4:4, alpha channel, dept=
h channel, and maybe 10-bit. =A0Seems like it could be a good open source r=
eplacement for ProRes if it gets wider adoption. =A0You can currently play =
WebM directly in Firefox, Chrome, VLC, and others.<br>


<br>
They have a companion still image format, WebP, which supports lossless com=
pression too. =A0Unfortunately, the movie format doesn&#39;t currently do l=
ossless.<br>
<span class=3D""><font color=3D"#888888"><br></font></span></blockquote><di=
v><br></div><div><br></div><div style>Yes, Googles VP9 looks very interesti=
ng, and so does the new ORBX.js codec that Mozilla and the Otoy guys have b=
een developing:</div>

<div style><a href=3D"http://brendaneich.com/2013/05/today-i-saw-the-future=
/">http://brendaneich.com/2013/05/today-i-saw-the-future/</a><br></div><div=
 style><br></div><div style>Both of them claim about the same compression/q=
uality as h.265 (HEVC), but both don&#39;t have the same license &quot;prob=
lems&quot; as h.264 have and h.265 will have. So maybe the future standard =
codec wont be h.265 as many predict, but maybe the future looks more bright=
.... or messy... depending on how you look at it :-)</div>

<div style><br></div><div style>- Robert</div><div style><br></div><div><br=
></div><div>=A0</div></div></div></div>

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