Return-Path: Received: from mail-ea0-f176.google.com ([209.85.215.176] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5096683 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 20:11:56 +0200 Received: by mail-ea0-f176.google.com with SMTP id o14so1406644eaj.35 for ; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 11:21:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Amit13+5z+zDAyqPbMf0BFgM9sRkZcD/bfZT3tnIo/4=; b=dVMQ7aK9uF4WAzkXOCdil3yKpuXYwQdH5Ifubqt9t1Ct595ZhisHPdqAvKZrLUEgGw 6t70NbhqjO6qFQrTcMfBDN+gTxnxfxLIUAuRYWUAKPoo43vnWTvlvHNa9NBuzbeUiZud ItJyfcaDZiW3nQ52ljtYnkvmw3UpGnOwpEJVqrnwnkFJT/vB9HpzKPsfA8f8wiqVx/oh ygx+B0bVECOTzfeEcIu6FZZDf8WMRaVI4NrF3A6NMLm6P+w0cQybc0gVBH0j308HKH9l rLxSkYwFu0AqvYX3PwjSLmCAZRaH5X/r8qKZlhPfPAE+XTh4LxyoScqAGfzA1Gxvabo2 LXpA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.15.94.131 with SMTP id bb3mr30649581eeb.20.1370456497957; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 11:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.15.27.200 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 11:21:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 13:21:37 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] green screen shooting tips From: Brian Higgins To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01634f76bddb5d04de6c44bf X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn4m7ngRVimNgRjzOrCmMK+Z/+VsExAcB3WJxcaNyTtSSXasG8VyLI4mEzHIFaozg1nPYGU --089e01634f76bddb5d04de6c44bf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd like to second what Tim said. You can either pay up front to shoot greenscreen right and have it look good with a little post work, or you can cheap out up front and spend a ton in post trying to save it from looking horrible. If production screws up the shoot, making it look "not horrible" is the best you can hope for. -bH On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:10 PM, wrote: > yeah - I alway think green screen cost about the same amount whether you > hire a pro-shooter or not - it's just where you want to spend the money, = on > the shoot or in post. of course paying more for the shoot may improve the > overall look easier than than getting "good enough" in post. but all this > seem fairly obvious, green screen shooting is becoming the desktop > publishing revolution - I mean if you've got a camera and a green surface= , > viola. > > and thanks Todd for the helpful answers I'll have to pass those off to ou= r > post manager - he's always looking for info to pass on to our directors/D= Ps. > > tt > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Jim Curtis" > > *To: *"After Effects Mail List" > *Sent: *Wednesday, June 5, 2013 9:56:51 AM > > *Subject: *Re: [AE] green screen shooting tips > > Thank you, Todd. Jonas' link is excellent for shooters. > > The weisenheimer replies amuse me, and you're all exactly right that > clients should hire professionals to do this stuff. But, trying to force > clients to serve my wishes doesn't seem to be too practical all the time. > > I charge by the hour, so I made more money trying to fix their crap than = I > would have if the first eyedropper click resulted in a perfect key. They > were trying to save money by hiring some local kid at a distant location, > and didn't want to pay to fly an experienced shooter. I'm sure my extra > time cost them less than air fare. But, I'm trying to do them a favor an= d > give them some tips to improve the outcome for the next time. > > Thanks, everybody. > > > > On Jun 5, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Todd Kopriva wrote: > > Jonas Hummelstrand has an excellent resource on his site: > http://generalspecialist.com/greenscreen-and-bluescreen-checklist/ > > That resource and some other good ones are linked to from the =93Shooting > and acquiring footage for keying=94 section of After Effects Help: > http://adobe.ly/RNe3pz > > > Can anybody suggest a link that has the most authoritative, comprehensive > tip sheet for green screen shooting that I can send to this particular > client the next time they consider doing it? > > > --=20 *brian higgins | creative director Sol Design 312.706.5500 higgins@soldesignfx.com soldesignfx.com * --089e01634f76bddb5d04de6c44bf Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'd like to second what Tim said. =A0You can either pa= y up front to shoot greenscreen right and have it look good with a little p= ost work, or you can cheap out up front and spend a ton in post trying to s= ave it from looking horrible. If production screws up the shoot, making it = look "not horrible" is the best you can hope for.

-bH


On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:10 PM, = <pixelbot@comc= ast.net> wrote:
yeah - I alway think green screen cost about the same amount wheth= er you hire a pro-shooter or not - it's just where you want to spend th= e money, on the shoot or in post. of course paying more for the shoot may i= mprove the overall look easier than than getting "good enough" in= post. but all this seem fairly obvious, green screen shooting is becoming = the desktop publishing revolution - I mean if you've got a camera and a= green surface, viola.

and thanks Todd for the helpful answers I'll have to pas= s those off to our post manager - he's always looking for info to pass = on to our directors/DPs.

tt

From: "Jim Curtis" <jpcurtis@me.com>

To: &= quot;After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 9:56:51 AM

= Subject: Re: [AE] green screen shooting tips

Thank you, Todd. =A0Jonas' link is excellent for shooters.=

The weisenheimer replies amuse me, and you're all exactl= y right that clients should hire professionals to do this stuff. =A0But, tr= ying to force clients to serve my wishes doesn't seem to be too practic= al all the time.

I charge by the hour, so I made more money trying to fi= x their crap than I would have if the first eyedropper click resulted in a = perfect key. =A0They were trying to save money by hiring some local kid at = a distant location, and didn't want to pay to fly an experienced shoote= r. =A0I'm sure my extra time cost them less than air fare. =A0But, I= 9;m trying to do them a favor and give them some tips to improve the outcom= e for the next time.

Thanks, everybody.



On Jun 5, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Todd Kopriva wrote:

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= Jonas Hummelstrand has an excellent resource on his site:
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That resource and some other good ones are linked to from the =93Shooting a= nd acquiring footage for keying=94 section of After Effects Help:
http://adobe.ly/RNe3pz
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Can anybody suggest a link that has the most authoritative, co= mprehensive tip sheet for green screen shooting that I can send to this par= ticular client the next time they consider doing it?

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= brian higgins | creative director
Sol =A0Design
312.706.5500
higgins@soldesignfx.com
soldesignfx.com


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