Return-Path: Received: from mail-pb0-f42.google.com ([209.85.160.42] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5100132 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sun, 09 Jun 2013 19:18:50 +0200 Received: by mail-pb0-f42.google.com with SMTP id un1so2307130pbc.29 for ; Sun, 09 Jun 2013 10:28:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Mnqsk5UxFmuKy7SD2B+i2oZVLqm9TI518ueVvkCFnE4=; b=Nz1dZ/b0jn5onGFT+odtgCOhF9RUVxuUgKVH2aheH6T72pDzxeVWaKrnTHeYhNUx3z FSYU7xsVihFMvVjvZS2MFzEN8S9TebXIyPhRBuSAMlAQC8+qdgLO4JRn68SAbQBrEXxT 3FI2AnFoYeevrWdSyttkuWu5xlVBLx2GbrGgWcJ7N9FF6/yEKSezqTsczKsGdJxNxEie yIYzapb89LR7xrlB5Qh/u5ZC0nB8epEa3Bd51HyNoa653bmIEnwhcU2JORIoYBUyselG d9OBCWzNDI6cUfRtDjGE0lOdXDRq87hzNGX+dFnsPjttKVMr7AqhWtRiG9th7K8c2q7s ciNw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.2.196 with SMTP id 4mr6704577pbw.156.1370798918394; Sun, 09 Jun 2013 10:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.122.165 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Jun 2013 10:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.122.165 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Jun 2013 10:28:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 19:28:38 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Format that can be exported directly from AE that would be acceptable for a TV station to work with? From: Robert Kjettrup To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec521553196fad004debbfe42 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkJ1I8zDDeN/idi9cSAWQXg8KJ5ULBDXPmUcpNA3vjE4Es3OMLAqN7GT+jBUXxtAKRVXWzX --bcaec521553196fad004debbfe42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As others have said, DNxHD or ProRes is almost universally accepted, most will also accept XDCAM HD in mxf container. But what i think is more problematic for you, assuming that you are in sweden and therefore should work within PAL standard, is that you say that you make your animations in 24fps and not the standard pal 25fps. There are various ways to convert this, some less elegant than others. Having one frame each second repeat is not doing anything good to your animation if it is to look fluid. Convert it to interlace and have a field repeat every half second is better IF you see it on a device that can properly display an interlace signal, but interlace is mostly baaad. :-( The best option is to either play back your 24fps animation in 25fps and compensate in the audio mix so it still sounds correct, or rerender your animations in AE. Put your original 24fps animation comps in a 25fps comp and let AE do the resampling og all your ae animations in 25fps. AE magic :-D - Robert Den 09/06/2013 16.59 skrev "Robert W. Walker" : > There is no "one format fits all" answer. Each station has its own set > of specifications which they publish to their content suppliers. If you > are submitting content for "demo" or "audition" purposes, then any > typical specs, including 1080p/24 (or 23.976) h.264 would be fine. But > they will tell you how they want it delivered for air. > > Robert W. Walker > Los Angeles > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: [AE] Format that can be exported directly from AE that would b= e > > acceptable for a TV station to work with? > > From: "Anders Sundstedt" > > Date: Sun, June 09, 2013 8:49 am > > To: "After Effects Mail List" > > > > > > Hi, > > I normally only ever do animated video in 1080p 24 fps for web video > (Vimeo, YouTube embed etc.) > > Now if someone tells me my video is so awesome it belongs on TV, what i= s > the simplest, best, easiest acceptable format that a TV station could > accept / work with that I could export to directly from AE? > > > > Now I am not talking about a course in video formats, let us assume thi= s > is a guide for newbies, not someone working in broadcast, also lets assum= e > that it doesn=92t need to be ready to broadcast directly without preparat= ion > , only a format that they would be happy to work with. > > > > I have a guess that the popular video format of QuickTime, 1080p, 24fps= , > H264 lossless is not acceptable? (would be great if it is so I don=92t ha= ve > to render multiple versions). > > > > I just want a simple answer here, not a handbook or a complicated guide= , > thanks. > > > > What is the digital format that would be best (and ideally small in siz= e > but =91lossless=92) that could be simply uploaded to FTP or shared on Dro= pBox > etc. > > > > I am talking about 3 minute length of video max, so 60 to 180 seconds. > (The type of video is animated cartoon type video). > > > > Perhaps there are alternatives, but I would be happy with just the best= , > simplest, smallest, most compatible format. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Anders > > http://sundstedt.se > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > --bcaec521553196fad004debbfe42 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

As others have said, DNxHD or ProRes is almost universally a= ccepted, most will also accept XDCAM HD in mxf container.

But what i think is more problematic for you, assuming that = you are in sweden and therefore should work within PAL standard, is that yo= u say that you make your animations in 24fps and not the standard pal 25fps= .
There are various ways to convert this, some less elegant than others. Havi= ng one frame each second repeat is not doing anything good to your animatio= n if it is to look fluid. Convert it to interlace and have a field repeat e= very half second is better IF you see it on a device that can properly disp= lay an interlace signal, but interlace is mostly baaad. :-(
The best option is to either play back your 24fps animation in 25fps and co= mpensate in the audio mix so it still sounds correct, or rerender your anim= ations in AE. Put your original 24fps animation comps in a 25fps comp and l= et AE do the resampling og all your ae animations in 25fps. AE magic :-D

- Robert

Den 09/06/2013 16.59 skrev "Robert W. Walke= r" <robertw@walkersound.= com>:
There is no "one format fits all" answer. Each station has its ow= n set
of specifications which they publish to their content suppliers. If you
are submitting content for "demo" or "audition" purpose= s, then any
typical specs, including 1080p/24 (or 23.976) h.264 would be fine. But
they will tell you how they want it delivered for air.

Robert W. Walker
Los Angeles

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [AE] Format that can be exported directly from AE that would = be
> acceptable for a TV station to work with?
> From: "Anders Sundstedt" <sundstedt@hotmail.com>
> Date: Sun, June 09, 2013 8:49 am
> To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
>
>
> Hi,
> I normally only ever do animated video in 1080p 24 fps for web video (= Vimeo, YouTube embed etc.)
> Now if someone tells me my video is so awesome it belongs on TV, what = is the simplest, best, easiest acceptable format that a TV station could ac= cept / work with that I could export to directly from AE?
>
> Now I am not talking about a course in video formats, let us assume th= is is a guide for newbies, not someone working in broadcast, also lets assu= me that it doesn=92t need to be ready to broadcast directly without prepara= tion , only a format that they would be happy to work with.
>
> I have a guess that the popular video format of QuickTime, 1080p, 24fp= s, H264 lossless is not acceptable? (would be great if it is so I don=92t h= ave to render multiple versions).
>
> I just want a simple answer here, not a handbook or a complicated guid= e, thanks.
>
> What is the digital format that would be best (and ideally small in si= ze but =91lossless=92) that could be simply uploaded to FTP or shared on Dr= opBox etc.
>
> I am talking about 3 minute length of video max, so 60 to 180 seconds.= (The type of video is animated cartoon type video).
>
> Perhaps there are alternatives, but I would be happy with just the bes= t, simplest, smallest, most compatible format.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Anders
> http://sundstedt.se<= /a>

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