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Thanks everyone! I think I now have enough information on what file formats are generally acceptable.
To clarify, I am from Sweden but I have lived in the UK since 2004 (thus my portfolio website is still .se (server in US but I have now registered .co.uk so name server points to .se) as I have not wanted to move server and loose any link juice).
I have not worked on making animations for a certain country, only world wide (web), (so far mainly UK and US clients).
To clarify, in my case I have been using True HDTV 1080p resolution 1920x1080 (2.1 megapixel) output and 24 fps. I think this is also knows as 1080p24m, as it’s supported for both internet and Blu-Ray and many other distribution services.
(Since Blu-ray Discs allows encoding of 1080p23.976 and 1080p24 I also thought that made even more sense).
The reason I have chosen HDTV 1080 24 (this is one of the comp presets in After Effects) is mainly that I chose the format to create 2D animated films, not for broadcast. I wanted to use the frame rate for traditional animated film and also one that can be played back on consumer displays for Full HD, let’s say for presentations on conferences and trade shows, since “Full HD” is supposed to support 1080p24.
(The videos were all created specifically for 1080p HD for the web, so I went with the traditional frame rate for animated film (not TV)). So specifically for Vimeo or YouTube embedding.
I have chosen to only work in HDTV format, not worrying about SD output (DV etc.) If client would have wanted a video for broadcast, I would perhaps have used another frame rate.
I don’t think that I should have worked in pal 25fps, as my short films were designed for the web, not for any specific country broadcast standard.
When I read about 1080p online (wikipedia) it says that the original ATSC standards for HDTV in the united states supported 1080p video at frame rates of 23.976, 24,25 and 29.97. So that included 1080p24.
Due to all of my above reasons, that’s why I have so for not considered working in 25fps.
I understand as you have mentioned, that I could play back in 25fps and compensate the audio mix, the problem with that that the music track would no longer match? plus that there would be too much work to remix the audio, VO and all sound effects again, especially if versions would have to be made for different broadcast standards.
Robert, the 2nd alternative of putting original 24fps animation comps in a 25fps comp, could I just take the finished rendered “master” 24 fps targa sequence, put that in a 25fps comp, or would I have to re-render all the different scenes using the original comps? (as I have been pre-rendering each of let’s for example say 15 scenes in a project in 24 fps and then editing them together in my final comp, where I’ve applied some various filters and mixed the sound / vo / sfx, it could otherwise take far too long and be messy to have to actually re-render every single scene project on their own in 25 fps comps first. (because they can be complex scenes with really long render times). If that is the case then I think I would go for option 1, even though re-mixing the audio would also be a lot of extra work.
If only all countries could agree on one system for their digital TV
At least now, I have some alternative file formats to use, and as you guys have mentioned, each station may have different preferred format anyway.
Let’s put it this way then, forget about all the videos I have done so far, they were all designed for web 1080p24 anyway so they don’t need re-doing
Can you convince me I should be using another frame rate than 24fps going forward, for my next projects? I would want to use a format for my short animated films that would be best format when not knowing beforehand what countries it may be broadcast in? (at the moment I would only really be needing format that would need versions mainly for Europe and US). I guess if I go with 25 fps as mentioned, it should feel pretty similar to 24 fps animation and it’s at least ready for European digital TV... (so that seems to make most sense)?
Kind Regards,
Anders
P.S. I am looking for work so if anyone needs help with animated 2D/2.5D “explainer” type animated video or marketing video, I can do both directing, animation and illustration (everything).
http://sundstedt.co.uk
(or sundstedt.se)
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