Return-Path: Received: from mail-qa0-f49.google.com ([209.85.216.49] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5101382 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 22:14:32 +0200 Received: by mail-qa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id hu16so2537932qab.15 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:24:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=3VUrUiu9ranyQdfUniAhgzCrVb+zppNie1e0dl5B9oI=; b=qaAdo/BHVlERTNmhhER4ki6KdoFW2PU56DYWmZIhvT/CGlEmH84fTfTLkvGXuAZfp9 Makvw8Rb2nCJIgHLFjJpLuAuCSQ7s46o9sA6RX2S1jJhDxleg3MmShB7XUH48bB7861Z bEBA9lax8n6RtH7JlhcJe24jEw4vLOYDnogYdB6YNC021zHER8TOmCpdmXUx3Z+ZvOuq r3fhu3OpCQ0ER+/G5iOrplIKbULr+Fe6pNKBMByGJSb6C8k2oOPNJ6lt6WLMA6HlXGZz lrR7WX9VJJvpxY4WpgLzJW5ChNqYxOHB90To/mUZWvhEIHHJJDCyvZEKvUsY0h8VUcYB ygFA== X-Received: by 10.49.0.145 with SMTP id 17mr12530440qee.26.1370895862725; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:24:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.49.121.168 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:23:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Teddy Gage Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 16:23:42 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] New MacPro To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b33d892ec1f9e04ded29014 --047d7b33d892ec1f9e04ded29014 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not to mention, AMD firepros are much slower than even AMD's own flagship consumer cards, much like the quadros vs. GTX, which are built for accuracy not speed. I can't wait to see benchmarks of these dual firepros against a single GTX Titan. And, if you want an external graphics card with thunderbolt, you will also have to have an external PSU that can supply the extra 400-600W TDP. It's just insane. Sorry for the rant. It's ludicrous. yes that was a spaceballs helmet joke. -TG On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: > I'm guessing RAM maxes out at 64GB but I'm sure that costs an extra $2k. > The fact is, this machine will be impossible to overclock due to the size > and cooling capacity. As someone who builds computers I can tell you this > is simple physics, unless they are using phase exchangers or liquid > hydrogen. I'm guessing a minimum entry price point of $3999. The intel > 3930K chip overclocked is faster than the 8 core xeon and currently retai= ls > for under $500. See my cinebench scores http://imgur.com/xMTkacD. You can > build a system around that chip for another $600. You could literally hav= e > 3 computers that, together, are 4x faster than the iWastebasket for the > entry level price, before you do any upgrading to the MP. Let alone lose > all your invested stock of pci-e cards, adapters, hard drives, etc. > > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: > >> http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/ >> >> >> RAM maximum? >> >> >> >> >> On Jun 10, 2013, at 3:04 PM, S=F8ren Christensen wrote: >> >> what is most cryptic right now - to me at least - is how they plan for >> the user to access the 40GB/320Gbit pci express bandwidth? >> The thunderbolt2 ports only accounts for about 1/3 of the available >> bandwidth. >> I guess thats why they called it a sneak peak :-) >> >> Still, I dont mind running the adobe cc on that. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> |||| DESILENCE STUDIO >> |||| www.dslnc.com - motion & interactivity >> |||| +34 93 268 0953 / +34 61 555 9963 (mobile) >> >> |||| SOCIAL >> |||| facebook.dslnc.com >> |||| twitter.dslnc.com >> >> |||| NEW SHOWREEL 2013 >> |||| http://v5.dslnc.com/reel/ >> >> >> >> On Jun 10, 2013, at 9:40 PM, Stephen van Vuuren >> wrote: >> >> From the Apple click-through, it appears if I'm seeing it right to be a >> single socket with 4 RAM slots, meaning CPU and memory options will be >> pretty limited. Only RAM and CPU looks like standard expansion, so Teddy >> may >> be right, this thing may be for the most part, no more configurable than= a >> laptop. >> >> stephen van vuuren >> 336.202.4777 >> >> http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ >> http://www.sv2dcp.com/ >> http://www.sv2studios.com/ >> >> A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It should >> be a >> progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emotion, >> the >> meaning, all that comes later. >> -Stanley Kubrick >> >> >> >> >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Animator & Editor > www.teddygage.com > Brooklyn > --=20 Animator & Editor www.teddygage.com Brooklyn --047d7b33d892ec1f9e04ded29014 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not to mention, AMD firepros are much slower than eve= n AMD's own flagship consumer cards, much like the quadros vs. GTX, whi= ch are built for accuracy not speed. I can't wait to see benchmarks of = these dual firepros against a single GTX Titan. And, if you want an externa= l graphics card with thunderbolt, you will also have to have an external PS= U that can supply the extra 400-600W TDP. It's just insane. Sorry for t= he rant. It's ludicrous.
yes that was a spaceballs helmet joke.
-TG


On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@= gmail.com> wrote:
I'm guessing RAM m= axes out at 64GB but I'm sure that costs an extra $2k. The fact is, thi= s machine will be impossible to overclock due to the size and cooling capac= ity. As someone who builds computers I can tell you this is simple physics,= unless they are using phase exchangers or liquid hydrogen. I'm guessin= g a minimum entry price point of $3999. The intel 3930K chip overclocked is= faster than the 8 core xeon and currently retails for under $500. See my c= inebench scores http= ://imgur.com/xMTkacD. You can build a system around that chip for anoth= er $600. You could literally have 3 computers that, together, are 4x faster= than the iWastebasket for the entry level price, before you do any upgradi= ng to the MP. Let alone lose all your invested stock of pci-e cards, adapte= rs, hard drives, etc.


On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@= me.com> wrote:
http://www.apple.com/m= ac-pro/


RAM maximum?




On Jun 10, 2013, at 3:04 PM, S=F8= ren Christensen wrote:

what is =A0most cryptic right= now - to me at least - is how they plan for the user to access the 40GB/32= 0Gbit pci express bandwidth?=A0
The thunderbolt2 ports only accou= nts for about 1/3 of the available bandwidth.
I guess thats why they called it a sneak peak :-)

=
Still, I dont mind running the adobe cc on that.

<= div>



On Jun 10, 2013, at 9:40 PM, Stephen van Vuuren <stephen@sv2studios.com= > wrote:

From the Apple click-thr= ough, it appears if I'm seeing it right to be a
single socket with 4 RAM slots, meaning CPU and memory options will be
p= retty limited. Only RAM and CPU looks like standard expansion, so Teddy may=
be right, this thing may be for the most part, no more configurable tha= n a
laptop.

stephen van vuuren
336.202.4777

http://www.insaturnsrings.com/
http://www.sv2dc= p.com/
http://www.sv2stud= ios.com/

A film is - or should be - more like music than like fi= ction. It should be a
progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what= 's behind the emotion, the
meaning, all that comes later.
-Stanley Kubrick



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