Return-Path: Received: from mail-qa0-f48.google.com ([209.85.216.48] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5101386 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 22:16:30 +0200 Received: by mail-qa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id cm16so2544446qab.14 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:26:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=crMD7CN1jPBSFbSrWe7GZ/P4AqnqWnuxKquyClVg/5A=; b=s83alJkAiHwoFxokP0AO4aC5S4xS/rL0M1iOq6Zh+nhArptg0qdera6UmSQZTZ1AFY riWFJDjXZytpeDBVzJp9+0IPNYeuWDSltWiTcVAe/u3Bdk32ipFNC9qHQX/2U7SErYP4 qLWz276RDLaZKOkwao7ZQF+5vy506RTDV8QnenSvTJ/BcHtLryls/BeRMO9lwVG/XqAn MtBfOS+oTzSpl3QAGYe0optr+/9KMisSK6xVUE+eGM2JoFmm9/vA8UIb8AVDWaS3az0K zXQ0dKf8dZ/6dBB0868nLYfTD8hbAHBLzrkkFOry+0j5K5un6eo6BpV+BB799FNte6ml B7JQ== X-Received: by 10.229.206.197 with SMTP id fv5mr4511631qcb.60.1370895980547; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:26:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.49.121.168 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:25:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Teddy Gage Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 16:25:40 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] New MacPro To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e010d954af1d70004ded29744 --089e010d954af1d70004ded29744 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd say the point is not that you can or can't (or wouldn't) overclock the mac pro, it's that it is extremely easy to overclock a much cheaper PC. Which then makes it even more valuable when compared to the MP in terms of both price and render power. On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Brian Higgins wro= te: > Does anyone actually overclock Mac Pros? If you're that technically > inclined, you've already built a Hackintosh. > > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: > >> I'm guessing RAM maxes out at 64GB but I'm sure that costs an extra $2k. >> The fact is, this machine will be impossible to overclock due to the siz= e >> and cooling capacity. As someone who builds computers I can tell you thi= s >> is simple physics, unless they are using phase exchangers or liquid >> hydrogen. I'm guessing a minimum entry price point of $3999. The intel >> 3930K chip overclocked is faster than the 8 core xeon and currently reta= ils >> for under $500. See my cinebench scores http://imgur.com/xMTkacD. You >> can build a system around that chip for another $600. You could literall= y >> have 3 computers that, together, are 4x faster than the iWastebasket for >> the entry level price, before you do any upgrading to the MP. Let alone >> lose all your invested stock of pci-e cards, adapters, hard drives, etc. >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: >> >>> http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/ >>> >>> >>> RAM maximum? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 10, 2013, at 3:04 PM, S=F8ren Christensen wrote: >>> >>> what is most cryptic right now - to me at least - is how they plan for >>> the user to access the 40GB/320Gbit pci express bandwidth? >>> The thunderbolt2 ports only accounts for about 1/3 of the available >>> bandwidth. >>> I guess thats why they called it a sneak peak :-) >>> >>> Still, I dont mind running the adobe cc on that. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> |||| DESILENCE STUDIO >>> |||| www.dslnc.com - motion & interactivity >>> |||| +34 93 268 0953 / +34 61 555 9963 (mobile) >>> >>> |||| SOCIAL >>> |||| facebook.dslnc.com >>> |||| twitter.dslnc.com >>> >>> |||| NEW SHOWREEL 2013 >>> |||| http://v5.dslnc.com/reel/ >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 10, 2013, at 9:40 PM, Stephen van Vuuren >>> wrote: >>> >>> From the Apple click-through, it appears if I'm seeing it right to be a >>> single socket with 4 RAM slots, meaning CPU and memory options will be >>> pretty limited. Only RAM and CPU looks like standard expansion, so Tedd= y >>> may >>> be right, this thing may be for the most part, no more configurable tha= n >>> a >>> laptop. >>> >>> stephen van vuuren >>> 336.202.4777 >>> >>> http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ >>> http://www.sv2dcp.com/ >>> http://www.sv2studios.com/ >>> >>> A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It should >>> be a >>> progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emotion= , >>> the >>> meaning, all that comes later. >>> -Stanley Kubrick >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Animator & Editor >> www.teddygage.com >> Brooklyn >> > > > > -- > *brian higgins | creative director > Sol Design > 312.706.5500 > higgins@soldesignfx.com > soldesignfx.com > * > > > > --=20 Animator & Editor www.teddygage.com Brooklyn --089e010d954af1d70004ded29744 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'd say the point is not that you can or can't (or= wouldn't) overclock the mac pro, it's that it is extremely easy to= overclock a much cheaper PC. Which then makes it even more valuable when c= ompared to the MP in terms of both price and render power.


On Mon,= Jun 10, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Brian Higgins <higgins@soldesignfx.com= > wrote:
Does anyone actually overcl= ock Mac Pros? =A0If you're that technically inclined, you've alread= y built a Hackintosh.


On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Teddy Gage <= ;teddygage@gmail.c= om> wrote:
I'm guessing RAM m= axes out at 64GB but I'm sure that costs an extra $2k. The fact is, thi= s machine will be impossible to overclock due to the size and cooling capac= ity. As someone who builds computers I can tell you this is simple physics,= unless they are using phase exchangers or liquid hydrogen. I'm guessin= g a minimum entry price point of $3999. The intel 3930K chip overclocked is= faster than the 8 core xeon and currently retails for under $500. See my c= inebench scores http= ://imgur.com/xMTkacD. You can build a system around that chip for anoth= er $600. You could literally have 3 computers that, together, are 4x faster= than the iWastebasket for the entry level price, before you do any upgradi= ng to the MP. Let alone lose all your invested stock of pci-e cards, adapte= rs, hard drives, etc.


On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Jim Curtis <= jpcurtis@me.com>= ; wrote:
http://www.apple.com/m= ac-pro/


RAM maximum?




On Jun 10, 2013, at 3:04 PM, S=F8= ren Christensen wrote:

what is =A0most cryptic right= now - to me at least - is how they plan for the user to access the 40GB/32= 0Gbit pci express bandwidth?=A0
The thunderbolt2 ports only accou= nts for about 1/3 of the available bandwidth.
I guess thats why they called it a sneak peak :-)

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Still, I dont mind running the adobe cc on that.

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On Jun 10, 2013, at 9:40 PM, Stephen van Vuuren <stephen@sv2studios.com= > wrote:

From the Apple click-thr= ough, it appears if I'm seeing it right to be a
single socket with 4 RAM slots, meaning CPU and memory options will be
p= retty limited. Only RAM and CPU looks like standard expansion, so Teddy may=
be right, this thing may be for the most part, no more configurable tha= n a
laptop.

stephen van vuuren
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http://www.sv2dcp.com/=
http://www.sv2stud= ios.com/

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progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what= 's behind the emotion, the
meaning, all that comes later.
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