Mailing List AE-List@media-motion.tv ? Message #49456
From: Dennis Wilkins <dennis@reelsolutions.com>
Subject: Re: [AE] New MacPro
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:48:02 -0700
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
If Apple had only known they could have consulted with this forum to find out what the average high performance mac user wants…

I own many macs, currently have a renderfarm of 5 over-clocked water-cooled hackintoshes, and I don't think those fit the average user any better than this machine. They can be a time suck and a pita… 

Most people on this forum bill for their time until they start talking about how much money they can save building computers...

My main workstation is a Mac Pro and I imagine it will be for awhile. I don't want to mess with - build - troubleshoot etc. my main source of income. Talk about unnecessary stress.

Cooling, you can't really compare this to a ridiculous PC box that is blowing air every direction out of multiple components without any thought whatsoever as to what is creating the heat where and how best to get it out. 

I was hoping for a rack mount expandable Mac Pro replacement, but I'm not totally hating this new format yet. It would be nice to have a Nvidia card option. I can't imagine a 64GB RAM limit but we'll have to wait and see. That would be the biggest mistake I see so far with these new machines.

 - You haven't been able to upgrade a chip in a MacPro for years - they're soldered in.

All this is just another biased opinion… For what it's worth… I imagine Apple has a better handle on their customer base than I.

Dennis Wilkins 



On Jun 10, 2013, at 1:25 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:

I'd say the point is not that you can or can't (or wouldn't) overclock the mac pro, it's that it is extremely easy to overclock a much cheaper PC. Which then makes it even more valuable when compared to the MP in terms of both price and render power.


On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Brian Higgins <higgins@soldesignfx.com> wrote:
Does anyone actually overclock Mac Pros?  If you're that technically inclined, you've already built a Hackintosh.


On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm guessing RAM maxes out at 64GB but I'm sure that costs an extra $2k. The fact is, this machine will be impossible to overclock due to the size and cooling capacity. As someone who builds computers I can tell you this is simple physics, unless they are using phase exchangers or liquid hydrogen. I'm guessing a minimum entry price point of $3999. The intel 3930K chip overclocked is faster than the 8 core xeon and currently retails for under $500. See my cinebench scores http://imgur.com/xMTkacD. You can build a system around that chip for another $600. You could literally have 3 computers that, together, are 4x faster than the iWastebasket for the entry level price, before you do any upgrading to the MP. Let alone lose all your invested stock of pci-e cards, adapters, hard drives, etc.


On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com> wrote:
http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/


RAM maximum?




On Jun 10, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Søren Christensen wrote:

what is  most cryptic right now - to me at least - is how they plan for the user to access the 40GB/320Gbit pci express bandwidth? 
The thunderbolt2 ports only accounts for about 1/3 of the available bandwidth.
I guess thats why they called it a sneak peak :-)

Still, I dont mind running the adobe cc on that.




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On Jun 10, 2013, at 9:40 PM, Stephen van Vuuren <stephen@sv2studios.com> wrote:

From the Apple click-through, it appears if I'm seeing it right to be a
single socket with 4 RAM slots, meaning CPU and memory options will be
pretty limited. Only RAM and CPU looks like standard expansion, so Teddy may
be right, this thing may be for the most part, no more configurable than a
laptop.

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