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Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3453749525_22908147 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Say what?? Am 6/10/13 10:48 PM schrieb "Dennis Wilkins" unter : > snip... >=20 > - You haven't been able to upgrade a chip in a MacPro for years - they'r= e > soldered in. >=20 > Dennis Wilkins=20 > ...snip >=20 >=20 Elliot Steele ----------------------------------------------------------------------- digitalMEDIA Technik GmbH Am Berg 20 91809 Wellheim tel.: 08427 985011 fax: 08427 985012 handy: 0172 8410163 E-Mail: elliot.steele@digitalmediatechnik.de http://www.digitalmediatechnik.de HRB 5012, Amtsgericht Ingolstadt Gesch=E4ftsf=FChrer Elliot Steele USt-Nr: 124/124/40585 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Jun 10, 2013, at 1:25 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: >=20 >> I'd say the point is not that you can or can't (or wouldn't) overclock t= he >> mac pro, it's that it is extremely easy to overclock a much cheaper PC. = Which >> then makes it even more valuable when compared to the MP in terms of bot= h >> price and render power. >>=20 >>=20 >> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Brian Higgins >> wrote: >>> Does anyone actually overclock Mac Pros? If you're that technically >>> inclined, you've already built a Hackintosh. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Teddy Gage wrote= : >>>> I'm guessing RAM maxes out at 64GB but I'm sure that costs an extra $2= k. >>>> The fact is, this machine will be impossible to overclock due to the s= ize >>>> and cooling capacity. As someone who builds computers I can tell you t= his >>>> is simple physics, unless they are using phase exchangers or liquid >>>> hydrogen. I'm guessing a minimum entry price point of $3999. The intel >>>> 3930K chip overclocked is faster than the 8 core xeon and currently re= tails >>>> for under $500. See my cinebench scores http://imgur.com/xMTkacD. You = can >>>> build a system around that chip for another $600. You could literally = have >>>> 3 computers that, together, are 4x faster than the iWastebasket for th= e >>>> entry level price, before you do any upgrading to the MP. Let alone lo= se >>>> all your invested stock of pci-e cards, adapters, hard drives, etc. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: >>>>> http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/ >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> RAM maximum? >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Jun 10, 2013, at 3:04 PM, S=F8ren Christensen wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> what is most cryptic right now - to me at least - is how they plan = for >>>>>> the user to access the 40GB/320Gbit pci express bandwidth? >>>>>> The thunderbolt2 ports only accounts for about 1/3 of the available >>>>>> bandwidth. >>>>>> I guess thats why they called it a sneak peak :-) >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Still, I dont mind running the adobe cc on that. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> |||| DESILENCE STUDIO >>>>>> |||| www.dslnc.com - motion & interactivit= y >>>>>> |||| +34 93 268 0953 / +34 61 555 = 9963 >>>>>> (mobile) >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> |||| SOCIAL >>>>>> |||| facebook.dslnc.com >>>>>> |||| twitter.dslnc.com >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> |||| NEW SHOWREEL 2013 >>>>>> |||| http://v5.dslnc.com/reel/ >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Jun 10, 2013, at 9:40 PM, Stephen van Vuuren >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> From the Apple click-through, it appears if I'm seeing it right to = be a >>>>>>> single socket with 4 RAM slots, meaning CPU and memory options will= be >>>>>>> pretty limited. Only RAM and CPU looks like standard expansion, so = Teddy >>>>>>> may >>>>>>> be right, this thing may be for the most part, no more configurable= than >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> laptop. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> stephen van vuuren >>>>>>> 336.202.4777 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ >>>>>>> http://www.sv2dcp.com/ >>>>>>> http://www.sv2studios.com/ >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It sh= ould >>>>>>> be a >>>>>>> progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emo= tion, >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> meaning, all that comes later. >>>>>>> -Stanley Kubrick >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> +---End of message---+ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 --B_3453749525_22908147 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [AE] New MacPro Say what??


Am 6/10/13 10:48 PM schrieb "Dennis Wilkins" unter <dennis@reelsolutions.com>:

<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>snip...

- You haven't been able to upgrade a chip in a MacPro for years - they'= re soldered in.

Dennis Wilkins
...snip


= Elliot Steele

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On Jun 10, 2013, at 1:25 PM, Teddy Gage <t= eddygage@gmail.com> wrote:

<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>I'd say the point is not that you can or can't (= or wouldn't) overclock the mac pro, it's that it is extremely easy to overcl= ock a much cheaper PC. Which then makes it even more valuable when compared = to the MP in terms of both price and render power.


On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Brian Higgins <higgins@soldesignfx.com> wrote:
<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>Does anyone actually overclock Mac Pros?  I= f you're that technically inclined, you've already built a Hackintosh.


On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:
<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>I'm guessing RAM maxes out at 64GB but I'm sure = that costs an extra $2k. The fact is, this machine will be impossible to ove= rclock due to the size and cooling capacity. As someone who builds computers= I can tell you this is simple physics, unless they are using phase exchange= rs or liquid hydrogen. I'm guessing a minimum entry price point of $3999. Th= e intel 3930K chip overclocked is faster than the 8 core xeon and currently = retails for under $500. See my cinebench scores http://imgur.com/xMTkacD. You can build a system around that chip= for another $600. You could literally have 3 computers that, together, are = 4x faster than the iWastebasket for the entry level price, before you do any= upgrading to the MP. Let alone lose all your invested stock of pci-e cards,= adapters, hard drives, etc.


On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Jim Curtis <j= pcurtis@me.com> wrote:
<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>http://w= ww.apple.com/mac-pro/


RAM maximum?




On Jun 10, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Søren Christensen wrote:

<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>what is  most cryptic right now - to me at = least - is how they plan for the user to access the 40GB/320Gbit pci express= bandwidth?
The thunderbolt2 ports only accounts for about 1/3 of the available bandwid= th.
I guess thats why they called it a sneak peak :-)

Still, I dont mind running the adobe cc on that.




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On Jun 10, 2013, at 9:40 PM, Stephen van Vuuren <stephen@sv2studios.com> wrote:

<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>From the Apple click-through, it appears if I'm = seeing it right to be a
single socket with 4 RAM slots, meaning CPU and memory options will be
pretty limited. Only RAM and CPU looks like standard expansion, so Teddy ma= y
be right, this thing may be for the most part, no more configurable than a<= BR> laptop.

stephen van vuuren
336.202.4777 <tel:336.202.4777>

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http://www.sv2dcp.com/
http://www.sv2studios.com/

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progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emotion, th= e
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