Return-Path: Received: from atl4mhob12.myregisteredsite.com ([209.17.115.50] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5102774 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 23:18:35 +0200 Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com ([10.30.71.207]) by atl4mhob12.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r5BLSR1d013052 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 17:28:27 -0400 Received: (qmail 7580 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jun 2013 21:28:27 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 24.73.238.28 X-Authenticated-UID: dsd@darkskydigital.com Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (dsd@darkskydigital.com@24.73.238.28) by 0 with ESMTPA; 11 Jun 2013 21:28:27 -0000 From: Dann Stubbs Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--310600577 Subject: Re: [AE] New MacPro Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 17:28:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <823FA036-EC70-4977-BCCA-AD9FF641FA87@darkskydigital.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) --Apple-Mail-4--310600577 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii it will not be faster then whatever equivalent xeon 12 core PC is = available by the time this mac pro ships (usually at a cheaper price) then as always you are stuck waiting for apple to decide when you can = get a faster chip/version - as we've seen sometimes way over a year or = more... i'm a huge mac fan and would prefer to use them over windows, but it = just does not make sense for a growing majority of applications or uses = to pay the premium that apple wants for what is often outdated = components at ship time - trust me i think that sucks big time and wish = apple could=20 i have my mac workstation, a couple mac servers, then 40 or so PC's, = some running linux, others Windows7 Pro... it would be great to run all = OSX... but reality is reality. i keep hoping for them to sell OSX as an OS for PC's - just give it a = strict set of hardware requirements but let us either buy or build our = own PC to run it on. (i'd pay $249 in a heartbeat for that OSX version - = which when compared to the $29 cost of OSX for mac - should be a fair = profit margin for them - probably more then they make on some of their = hardware) c'mon apple - release OSX for PC - lock it to the hardware or whatever = you need to do to prevent it being pirated like Microsoft does, but let = us who really want choice (and top power) to have some! ___________________________________________________________________ Dann Stubbs - dann@darkskydigital.com Dark Sky Digital - http://www.darkskydigital.com http://www.RenderKing.com Value Priced C4D, VRAY Render Farm ___________________________________________________________________ On Jun 11, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Dennis Wilkins wrote: > On Jun 11, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Steve Oakley = wrote: >=20 >> maybe, but I don't see an ROI on spending 50% more for 10-15% faster. = I don't need the fastest CPU, just one thats really fast. my i7 2.93 = 4core averages 5% than my zeon 4X2 2.8 tower. the i7's have more than = good enough performance. >=20 > I guess you didn't check out the link (http://www.cbscores.com); = current 12-core Xeon machines are closer to 75-80% faster than the = fastest available over-clocked 6-core i7 chips. Cost/performance wise, = i7 CPU's are very good CPU's. >=20 > This new machine will be expensive, as all Mac Pro's have been = (relative to the average PC), but I also think it will be an amazing = performer. >=20 > - Dennis Wilkins >=20 --Apple-Mail-4--310600577 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii it = will not be faster then whatever equivalent xeon 12 core PC is available = by the time this mac pro ships (usually at a cheaper = price)

then as always you are stuck waiting for apple = to decide when you can get a faster chip/version - as we've seen = sometimes way over a year or more...

i'm a huge = mac fan and would prefer to use them over windows, but it just does not = make sense for a growing majority of applications or uses to pay the = premium that apple wants for what is often outdated components at ship = time - trust me i think that sucks big time and wish apple = could

i have my mac workstation, a couple = mac servers, then 40 or so PC's, some running linux, others Windows7 = Pro... it would be great to run all OSX... but reality is = reality.

i keep hoping for them to sell OSX as = an OS for PC's - just give it a strict set of hardware requirements but = let us either buy or build our own PC to run it on. (i'd pay $249 in a = heartbeat for that OSX version - which when compared to the $29 cost of = OSX for mac - should be a fair profit margin for them - probably more = then they make on some of their hardware)

c'mon = apple - release OSX for PC - lock it to the hardware or whatever you = need to do to prevent it being pirated like Microsoft does, but let us = who really want choice (and top power) to have some!

Dann = Stubbs - dann@darkskydigital.com

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On Jun 11, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Dennis Wilkins = wrote:

steveo@practicali.com> = wrote:

maybe, but I don't see an ROI = on spending 50% more for 10-15% faster. I don't need the fastest CPU, = just one thats really fast. my i7 2.93 4core averages 5% than my = zeon 4X2 2.8 tower. the i7's have more than good enough = performance.

I guess you didn't check out the link (http://www.cbscores.com); current = 12-core Xeon machines are closer to 75-80% faster than the fastest = available over-clocked 6-core i7 chips. Cost/performance wise, i7 CPU's = are very good CPU's.

This new machine will be = expensive, as all Mac Pro's have been (relative to the average PC), but = I also think it will be an amazing performer.

- = Dennis = Wilkins

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